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« on: January 11, 2022, 11:28:14 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2022, 11:41:08 PM »

I want to believe, but I just can't. We've been burned by this kind of thing too many times before.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2022, 11:42:34 PM »

He hasn't announced yet
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 11:46:07 PM »

Lol is he even planning to run? I won’t take this seriously until he actually wins, but hope I’m wrong
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 11:58:23 PM »

Well, if you're doing internals, you probably plan on running?

On the other hand, while I theoretically can see Hogan winning this race, there's no way he'd win by this much against Van Hollen, and I think he'd be more interested in a doomed primary challenge to Trump in 2024 anyways
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2022, 12:41:11 AM »

I think he is legitimately interested in running, but the poor showing of previous unpopular governors in Senate races will probably make him not run.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2022, 12:55:07 AM »

63% won’t vote for Van Hollen
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2022, 02:11:09 AM »

Just remember Tom Perez is gonna be the D Nominee for Gov just like Shapiro will pull Fetterman across, Perez is the Fav and pull Van Hollen across, that's why Hogan is slow to making up his mind be ause of Juggernaut Tom Perez run for Gov
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2022, 10:58:18 AM »

If Hogan decides to run, he will lose decisively, just like former Governors Bayh, Strickland, Bredesen, and Bullock did in their Senatorial races. This seems suspiciously similar, in fact, to early polls we saw in Indiana and in Tennessee, where Bayh and Bredesen led by substantial margins, only for Young and Blackburn to close the gap (if there ever was one) and to win by high single to low double digits on Election Day. Hogan might be able to crack 40%, but he would still lose to Van Hollen by 12-20 points.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2022, 12:13:33 PM »

I personally thnk that its possible yet unlikely that Hogan challenges Van Hollen. Id say Hogan has only as of today a 30-35% chance of Running for Senate this year.

I wonder however if the Voting Rights and possibly Build Back Better (BBB) bills fail on the Senate Floor, would Hogan be overcome by sensing opportunity and powerlust to enter the Senate Race just to put the Dems even further on Defense. I also wonder if that scenario could cause already declined Senate Candidates such as Phil Scott in Vermont and even Adam Kinzinger in Illinois to change their minds and enter those races?
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2022, 12:17:19 PM »

If Hogan decides to run, he will lose decisively, just like former Governors Bayh, Strickland, Bredesen, and Bullock did in their Senatorial races. This seems suspiciously similar, in fact, to early polls we saw in Indiana and in Tennessee, where Bayh and Bredesen led by substantial margins, only for Young and Blackburn to close the gap (if there ever was one) and to win by high single to low double digits on Election Day. Hogan might be able to crack 40%, but he would still lose to Van Hollen by 12-20 points.

He wouldn't win, but he would easily crack 40%.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2022, 12:28:49 PM »

Press X to doubt.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2022, 12:38:13 PM »

Hogan would lose a Senate race because of how nationalized the Senate is these days....in 2000, 2006, maybe......

Hogan has no political career after Jan. 2023. He should be an elder statesman of the MDGOP....


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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2022, 12:39:59 PM »

Hogan would lose a Senate race because of how nationalized the Senate is these days....in 2000, 2006, maybe......

Hogan has no political career after Jan. 2023. He should be an elder statesman of the MDGOP....



He could run again in '26 for governor again
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2022, 12:58:35 PM »

Hogan would lose a Senate race because of how nationalized the Senate is these days....in 2000, 2006, maybe......

Hogan has no political career after Jan. 2023. He should be an elder statesman of the MDGOP....



Tom Perez will be Governor and Hogan may pass on the Senate race

He could run again in '26 for governor again
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2022, 04:23:37 PM »

If Hogan decides to run, he will lose decisively, just like former Governors Bayh, Strickland, Bredesen, and Bullock did in their Senatorial races. This seems suspiciously similar, in fact, to early polls we saw in Indiana and in Tennessee, where Bayh and Bredesen led by substantial margins, only for Young and Blackburn to close the gap (if there ever was one) and to win by high single to low double digits on Election Day. Hogan might be able to crack 40%, but he would still lose to Van Hollen by 12-20 points.

He wouldn't win, but he would easily crack 40%.

It's possible that he might fall short of that mark.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2022, 08:25:31 PM »

Ya I still think Hogan is an underdog and is hardly a shoo in if he does. I wonder do you think that he would be eager to jump in if BBB and Voting Rights bills fails on the floor like Schumer is trying to bring up?
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2022, 08:47:47 PM »

Ya I still think Hogan is an underdog and is hardly a shoo in if he does. I wonder do you think that he would be eager to jump in if BBB and Voting Rights bills fails on the floor like Schumer is trying to bring up?

Given both would be popular in MD I see no reason how that would help him since he would be forced to actually take positions.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2022, 08:52:28 PM »

I mean get Hogan to enter the race, I think its unlikely he runs but I am scared if these bills fails on the senate floor he'd be overcome by sensing oppurtunity and jump in anyway.
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 09:07:08 PM »

Hot take: Hogan can win. Polarization in this country is very asymmetric.
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2022, 09:25:24 PM »

Do you actually think he will jump in SnowLabrodor?
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2022, 09:56:35 PM »

Do you actually think he will jump in SnowLabrodor?

Most likely if he's conducting internals.
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2022, 10:03:10 PM »

Perhaps, that Internal is from WPA intelligence and presented to Hogan however. Are you concerned that if we don't pass the BBB and/or Voting Rights on the Floor of the Senate that He, as well as Phil Scott in VT could or would change their minds and run in their Senate Races.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2022, 09:20:46 AM »

Do you actually think he will jump in SnowLabrodor?

Not with Tom Perez whom is a lock for the next Gov of MD, that's why Oz will lose as wl Perez will carry Van Hollen and Shapiro will carry Fetterman

Hogan cut into the Blk and female and non Evangelical white vote with Shapiro and Perez,  Van Hollen and Fetterman should be just fine Blks make up 25 percent in MD


That's why Steele dropped out couldn't fundraise once Tom Perez got in but could of with any other Blk Gubernatorial nominee
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2022, 01:26:36 PM »

There's nothing in the write-up saying Larry Hogan/his campaign paid for this poll and the headline really should not say Hogan internal. More likely this is a persuasion attempt by GOP groups to get him to jump in.
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