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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2022, 11:07:57 PM »

I am confused by the titles of his daughter Can some one explain
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2022, 02:13:00 AM »


There are no counsellors of state at the current moment, as one hasn't needed to be formally appointed since 2015. While you'd be correct to point out that Andrew is currently one of only 4 people who are legally eligible to be appointed as one, that's only the case because of his princely status that emanates from his birth; short of an Act of Parliament, there exists no mechanism to either take that away from him or revoke his eligibility for appointment as a counsellor of state. In any event, he'll technically still be eligible for appointment as one 'til Charlotte turns 21 in 2036, but it's beyond clear that neither his mother nor brother would ever willingly appoint him as a counsellor of state in either of their absences anyway.

Of course, nothing's stopping Parliament from passing a bill of attainder formally removing Andrew from the Royal Family.
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2022, 06:47:58 AM »

I wonder if he sweated a bit before agreeing to this settlement.
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2022, 11:30:31 AM »

I wonder if he sweated a bit before agreeing to this settlement.

The fact that Prince Andrew was accused of being a sweaty rapist who touches kids & he thought that the best response to that was to argue on national TV that he's not actually all that sweaty is still the most grimly amusing part of this story.
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2022, 08:58:54 PM »

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

There are ways to cancel titles but they mostly involve Acts of Parliament.

Andrew is a Prince of the United Kingdom as the son of a monarch. His daughters have the title of Princess not because they are the children of a Prince, but because they are grandchildren of a monarch. The titles of Prince and Princess are conferred under rules made by the monarch for the time being, as are honorifics like His or Her Royal Highness. Those rules have been changed in the past century or two to reduce the number of royal relatives covered by the titles and could be altered by the Queen alone.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Ending the peerages of the Duke of York would require an Act of Parliament. Some peerages, including those held by royal relatives, were cancelled by legislation after the First World War because the holders were citizens of one of the Central Powers who had fought against the UK during the war or supported their countries war effort.

Changing the line of succession to the Crown, would require not only an Act of the UK Parliament but also equivalent legislation in the other Commonwealth realms.


parliament got more important things to do i am guessing?
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2022, 09:02:00 PM »

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

There are ways to cancel titles but they mostly involve Acts of Parliament.

Andrew is a Prince of the United Kingdom as the son of a monarch. His daughters have the title of Princess not because they are the children of a Prince, but because they are grandchildren of a monarch. The titles of Prince and Princess are conferred under rules made by the monarch for the time being, as are honorifics like His or Her Royal Highness. Those rules have been changed in the past century or two to reduce the number of royal relatives covered by the titles and could be altered by the Queen alone.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Ending the peerages of the Duke of York would require an Act of Parliament. Some peerages, including those held by royal relatives, were cancelled by legislation after the First World War because the holders were citizens of one of the Central Powers who had fought against the UK during the war or supported their countries war effort.

Changing the line of succession to the Crown, would require not only an Act of the UK Parliament but also equivalent legislation in the other Commonwealth realms.


so the duke of york title is dead after this i am guessing maybe bring back the Duke of Clarence or windsor for louis once he marrieds.
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