Prince Andrew stripped of royal and military titles

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

This is technically an International Discussion thread, but since most American posters here don't use that board very often and since it relates to the Epstein/Maxwell, uh, fiasco...
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1481682442255802372
literal yass Queen

[Calthrina950]

Everything short of actually being arrested and charged for his crimes, which is what he deserves.

[progressive85]

Adios!  the perv should take a perp walk in front of the BBC cameras.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The royal family is playing it ultra-safe with its image here. That's the takeaway from this.

[(no subject)]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

[CumbrianLefty]

The royal family is playing it ultra-safe with its image here. That's the takeaway from this.

As said by me previously, Charles and William are the big drivers behind this.

[Gary JG]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

There are ways to cancel titles but they mostly involve Acts of Parliament.

Andrew is a Prince of the United Kingdom as the son of a monarch. His daughters have the title of Princess not because they are the children of a Prince, but because they are grandchildren of a monarch. The titles of Prince and Princess are conferred under rules made by the monarch for the time being, as are honorifics like His or Her Royal Highness. Those rules have been changed in the past century or two to reduce the number of royal relatives covered by the titles and could be altered by the Queen alone.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Ending the peerages of the Duke of York would require an Act of Parliament. Some peerages, including those held by royal relatives, were cancelled by legislation after the First World War because the holders were citizens of one of the Central Powers who had fought against the UK during the war or supported their countries war effort.

Changing the line of succession to the Crown, would require not only an Act of the UK Parliament but also equivalent legislation in the other Commonwealth realms.

[Meclazine for Israel]

If he is not guilty, does he get them back?

[Antonio the Sixth]

tfw a 1000-year-old feudal holdover shows more accountability than US institutions.

[Middle-aged Europe]

How ironic. First he stripped naked and then he's stripped of his titles.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If he is not guilty, does he get them back?

It has been made clear that he is not getting them back, which may tell you a few things about how likely it is that has not done something heinous and foul.

[DavidB.]

Got scared when I only read the first three words of the title on the Atlas homepage.

[Silent Hunter]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Indeed, that sort of thing is the "corruption of blood" that the US constitution specifically outlawed in treason cases.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

This is a nothing, at the very least a public apology as well as restitutions should be required as well as shunning from polite society

[Antonio the Sixth]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Indeed, that sort of thing is the "corruption of blood" that the US constitution specifically outlawed in treason cases.

I mean, that says more about the absurdity of nobility titles in themselves (something you inherit by virtue of your ancestry rather than any personal achievement) than anything else.

[(no subject)]

Got scared when I only read the first three words of the title on the Atlas homepage.

Randy Andy in a ladies’ bra and knickers and ladies’ fishnets isn’t a worse image? ;)

[Ethelberth]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Indeed, that sort of thing is the "corruption of blood" that the US constitution specifically outlawed in treason cases.

I mean, that says more about the absurdity of nobility titles in themselves (something you inherit by virtue of your ancestry rather than any personal achievement) than anything else.

About half of them are peers for life.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If Randy Andy loses his dukedom, Bea and Genie also cease to be princesses of York.

It would be up to the Queen if any hypothetical change affected her grand daughters, although it would seem unfair to punish them because of whatever their father may be held to have done.

Indeed, that sort of thing is the "corruption of blood" that the US constitution specifically outlawed in treason cases.

I mean, that says more about the absurdity of nobility titles in themselves (something you inherit by virtue of your ancestry rather than any personal achievement) than anything else.

About half of them are peers for life.

Okay? I don't see what that changes of my point.

[Ethelberth]

The majority of people having nobility title and political power, have some sorts of merits at least in Europe.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh, the grand old Duke of York,
He had ten thousand men;
He marched them up to the top of the hill,
And he marched them down again.

When they were up, they were up,
And when they were down, they were down,
And when they were only halfway up,
They were neither up nor down.

(Yes, he's caved and Settled).

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

There was no chance of this going to trial.  Settling was the only option.  After a bit it will be out of the news.

[Silent Hunter]

There was no chance of this going to trial.  Settling was the only option.  After a bit it will be out of the news.

Andrew's reputation is tarnished though. He's not likely to be doing royal engagements for a long time.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

There was no chance of this going to trial.  Settling was the only option.  After a bit it will be out of the news.

Andrew's reputation is tarnished though. He's not likely to be doing royal engagements for a long time.

Yeah, I'd say he is probably never going to represent the Queen at anything, but the Palace needed this off the front page instead of what could be a very drawn out trial and lots of unflattering headlines.

[Beet]

Reading about this case reminded me of a few things.

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life." - Donald Trump

A federal lawsuit filed in California in April 2016, against Epstein and Donald Trump by a California woman alleged that the two men sexually assaulted her at a series of parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994, when she was 13 years old. The suit was dismissed by a federal judge in May 2016 because it did not raise valid claims under federal law. The woman filed another federal suit in New York in June 2016, but it was withdrawn three months later, apparently without being served on the defendants. A third federal suit was filed in New York in September 2016.[citation needed]

The two latter suits included affidavits by an anonymous witness who attested to the accusations in the suits, asserting Epstein employed her to procure underage girls for him, and an anonymous person who declared the plaintiff had told him/her about the assaults at the time they occurred. The plaintiff, who had filed anonymously as Jane Doe, was scheduled to appear in a Los Angeles press conference six days before the 2016 election, but abruptly canceled the event; her lawyer Lisa Bloom asserted that the woman had received threats. The suit was dropped on November 4, 2016. Trump attorney Alan Garten denied the allegations, while Epstein declined to comment.

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He's still a counsellor of state.