🇳🇱 Politics and Elections in the Netherlands: General Election (Nov 22)

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Are there any embarrassed retrospectives on that Ukrainian referendum a few years back?

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I've asked this before, but give that PvdD now is getting relatively substantial seats is it starting the process of becoming a governing party, even if merely as external support?

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Why is Maastricht so dominated by old people parties? Some kind of local Senior Party in first, CDA and PvdA both up there etc. I thought it was a university town?

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It obviously makes ideological sense for a party like Denk to be brought into that sort of coalition, but have their been any agitation from activists from either the party or VVD/Leefbaar against the two working together? Like, I could not imagine Denk forming a coalition on a national level for obvious reasons, but even at a local level there could be a lot of discomfort (I recall a mooted SP-PvdA-Gl association with Nida went down in flames, for example)

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Is BBB likely to be flash in the pan? Are they merely single issue on this nitrogen thing? What coalitions could they form?

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So the evening will look as follows.

21:00: Polls close; exit poll for Noord-Holland
21:20: Exit poll for Overijssel
21:40: Exit poll for Noord-Brabant
22:00: Exit poll for Senate
22:30: Results for municipalites start coming in

After 1:30: Separate prognoses for all 12 Provincial States + Senate, based on actual results, with high level of reliability

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At 10:30, turnout was 8%, 1% higher than in 2019. Total turnout was 56% in 2019, which was relatively high compared to the Provincial elections in the years before - turnout used to be around 50%.

Who are you voting for these days?

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The Netherlands is not the only country in Europe that has a large agricultural sector and its also not the only country that is trying to meet climate change targets. Why is this BBB revolt by farmers such a uniquely Dutch phenomenon? Why do we not see similar parties popping up in Germany or Denmark or Belgium. I know those other countries have rightwing populist parties - but they tend to be focused on xenophobia and not fight against nitrogen reduction.

The nature and scale of these nitrogen cuts, and the way they were handled (imposed by a court) is  relatively unique to. The Netherlands.

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One of you may have explained this, but why did neither Denk nor Bij1 run in these elections? (I guess DENK did run a small slate, but they lost all their seats). I know the former is troubled, but what's happening with the latter?

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If the CDA really wanted to survive, could they bend the knee and let Omtzigt back in as leader?

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Things are getting even more heated now in the PvdD.

People who love animals so much often seem to have serious issues when with dealing with human beings

I think it's astonishing that they've avoided such a blow up for so long - they've been around for a decade with essentially very little drama. By contrast, Volt lasted what - a year in the spotlight before self destructing?

Has thieme herself commented?

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the netherlands need a 5% thershold

I'll add it to the list

the netherlands should raise the threshold to 5%

they need move the thershold up to 5% no way should a party under 1% of the vote be awared a seat

They need to raised the threshold to 5%

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https://twitter.com/Nassreddin2002/status/1727417631068877011
https://twitter.com/Nassreddin2002/status/1727422317779701936
Stages of grief speedrun.

In fairness, I think that guy is a dual national with a Moroccan background so he has quite a legitimate reason to fear a Wilders gov beyond normal partisan "muh side lost".

Interesting there was no predicted "gaza effect" to either sace Bij1 or bolster denk.

If the senate is problematic, is there a mechanism by which ths regions can be prematurely dissolved so a new senate can be elected?