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Alben Barkley
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« on: May 13, 2022, 05:00:11 PM »

I actually thought this election would happen back in 2014/early 2015, predicted Mittens would run again and it would be pretty much a toss-up between him and HRC. Thought that was likelier than Jeb! as the nominee even then.

I think Hillary PROBABLY holds on to the freiwal and squeaks out a win, but could see it going either way. Romney probably still gets spanked among Hispanic voters. We could well see a VERY close repeat of 2012 with less voter enthusiasm. Probably Romney narrowly flips FL and OH but maybe not much if anything else?
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 07:13:36 PM »

On the one hand, Hillary Clinton turned out to be a really weak candidate in 2016, and the emails would have sunk her against a strong opponent.

On the other hand, Mitt Romney lost in 2012, there's no realistic way he wins the nomination again in 2016 (Paul Ryan had a much better chance from the 2012 ticket and he chose not to run), and even if he did, it's unlikely Putin would support him against Hillary, and even with Putin's support, it's unlikely Romney could tap into the Republican base enough to beat Hillary in 2016, after failing to do so to beat Obama in 2012.


Clinton fails to carry all three of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, losing Michigan because of Romney's roots in the Wolverine State, and Romney being the former Governor of Massachusetts allows him to run better than expected in New England, giving him a pickup of New Hampshire.

Other than that, Clinton sweeps the battlegrounds, with the exception of Iowa, including holding Ohio and Florida.

I don't think she picks Tim Kaine here. Given Romney is a harder opponent than Trump to beat, in her eyes, she probably picks someone with actual electoral benefits, or she picks Sanders to unite the Democratic Party.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Bernie Sanders (I/D-VT) 50%
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) 46%

Why is MI to the right of OH

Romney's the son of a former Governor of Michigan who might have some residual popularity there due to his family name.

It's very, very bold to assume Romney would carry the state because his father was governor 50 years prior to that. Most Michigan voters probably don't even remember George Romney.

Keep in mind W easily lost CT in 2000 despite the fact the 2000 election was closer to when Prescott Bush was Senator than 2016 was to when George Romney was Governor.

Or how about the fact that Romney lost MI by 10 points in 2012.
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