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« on: December 31, 2021, 10:00:01 AM »

A lot of people say that Afrikaners should move out of South Africa and to the Netherlands, where their ancestors are from.

Should they?
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2021, 11:14:01 AM »

Many aren’t even of primarily Dutch descent.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2021, 11:21:35 AM »
« Edited: January 02, 2022, 04:13:49 AM by Zinneke »

Not at all, it's absolutely essential to protect Afrikaner rights without going down the right wing rabbit hole of "whites are oppressed worldwide". They are as entitled to a stake in RSA as the other ethnicities there and it remains their home, however the previous Afrikaner elite may have been oppressors.

Also the Netherlands has enough religious nutjobs as it is.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2021, 11:32:13 AM »

1960s South Africa is basically utopia for you, right Bronz?
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2021, 11:45:35 AM »

I don't think anyone is saying this? Anyway, they've been there for well over three hundred years (settlement began in the 1650s and had largely ceased by 1700), which is significantly longer than most American families have been in the United States.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2021, 12:21:27 PM »

Many aren’t even of primarily Dutch descent.

What if they're half-Afrikaans and half-Zulu?
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2021, 12:27:22 PM »

Obvious troll is obvious shocker.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2021, 12:48:23 PM »

Literally, the South African government wants to expropriate the white people's farms. And, yes, they must flee to protect their lives. South Africa is slowly becoming the hell that Zimbabwe is for whites.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2021, 01:01:05 PM »

Literally, the South African government wants to expropriate the white people's farms. And, yes, they must flee to protect their lives. South Africa is slowly becoming the hell that Zimbabwe is for whites.


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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2021, 03:14:56 PM »

1960s South Africa is basically utopia for you, right Bronz?

Oh no, no.

Apartheid was not good. It was oppressive.

I prefer Orania. You don't want to live near Black people, fine. You do you. Voluntary freedom of association.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2021, 04:33:44 PM »

1960s South Africa is basically utopia for you, right Bronz?

Oh no, no.

Apartheid was not good. It was oppressive.

I prefer Orania. You don't want to live near Black people, fine. You do you. Voluntary freedom of association.

Thank you Santander.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2021, 08:21:12 PM »

Typically they go to Perth.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2022, 01:37:56 AM »

Literally, the South African government wants to expropriate the white people's farms. And, yes, they must flee to protect their lives. South Africa is slowly becoming the hell that Zimbabwe is for whites.




Didn’t Dutch settlers predate Black Africans in most of South Africa?
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2022, 06:19:25 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2022, 09:08:29 AM by parochial boy »

Literally, the South African government wants to expropriate the white people's farms. And, yes, they must flee to protect their lives. South Africa is slowly becoming the hell that Zimbabwe is for whites.




Didn’t Dutch settlers predate Black Africans in most of South Africa?


No. And even if referring specifically to the Cape, the claim would have to assume that the indigenuous Khoikhoi (as is referred to in the song) were neither african nor black.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2022, 07:05:50 PM »

Literally, the South African government wants to expropriate the white people's farms. And, yes, they must flee to protect their lives. South Africa is slowly becoming the hell that Zimbabwe is for whites.




Didn’t Dutch settlers predate Black Africans in most of South Africa?

No. And even if referring specifically to the Cape, the claim would have to assume that the indigenuous Khoikhoi (as is referred to in the song) were neither african nor black.

The Khoisan are African but they aren’t really Black. Anyway I have a lot of natural sympathy for them, they’re one of those peoples which has never had any interest in civilization and they should have been left alone. Alas, whether you’re interested in civilization or not, civilization is interested in you.
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2022, 08:04:50 PM »

Well there are two different answers here.
On the moral basis, no, Afrikaners have every right to live in their homeland without oppression/fear of oppression.
On a more practical basis, not yet, but they should be watching. While the “Afrikaner genocide” narrative the alt right is pushing is just not reflective of the situation, this is still a country with very volatile racial relations and a real potential to destabilize within the next decade. If things really get bad, Afrikaners (and anyone in South Africa) definitely should consider their options.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2022, 11:06:53 PM »

Yes just like I should cut myself in half so half of me can go back to Ulster and the other half to Germany.
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