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MarkD
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 05, 2022, 09:30:20 AM »

How far is "far right"? "Shifted dramatically to the right" "for almost two decades" ...?

In 2020, there were 23 states that voted to the right of Florida. Florida sure as hell isn't Oklahoma, West Virginia, or Wyoming. North Carolina was the only Trump state that voted more narrowly than Florida. And don't forget that the voters approved, by almost 61%, raising the minimum wage.

GWB won Florida in 2004 by a wider margin than Trump in 2020. Go all the way back to 1988, GHWB won almost 61%, and Florida was the first state that Dukakis triaged, viewing it as totally unwinnable.

Someone above spoke about the Senate race and the Gubernatorial race of 2018. But Scott only won by 0.13% and DeSantis only won by 0.40%. How are numbers like those indicative of a dramatic swing to the right? At the same time, Republicans lost FL-26 and FL-27, resulting in a delegation to the House of only 14 Rs to 13 Ds.

I'm not "stunned" by something that didn't happen.
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MarkD
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2022, 08:39:06 AM »

How far is "far right"? "Shifted dramatically to the right" "for almost two decades" ...?

In 2020, there were 23 states that voted to the right of Florida. Florida sure as hell isn't Oklahoma, West Virginia, or Wyoming. North Carolina was the only Trump state that voted more narrowly than Florida. And don't forget that the voters approved, by almost 61%, raising the minimum wage.

GWB won Florida in 2004 by a wider margin than Trump in 2020. Go all the way back to 1988, GHWB won almost 61%, and Florida was the first state that Dukakis triaged, viewing it as totally unwinnable.

Someone above spoke about the Senate race and the Gubernatorial race of 2018. But Scott only won by 0.13% and DeSantis only won by 0.40%. How are numbers like those indicative of a dramatic swing to the right? At the same time, Republicans lost FL-26 and FL-27, resulting in a delegation to the House of only 14 Rs to 13 Ds.

I'm not "stunned" by something that didn't happen.
It was 8 points  to the right of the country. FL would likely be won by 10 points whenever the GOP next wins the popular vote.

But I still don't see anyone answering my first question: how far is "far right"? In 2020, there were 23 other states that voted further to the right than Florida. As I said, Trump's win in 2020 was narrower (3.36%) than Bush's win in 2004 (4.01%). Republicans have won the governorship six times in a row - Jeb Bush twice, Crist once, Scott twice, and now DeSantis - but the last win was the narrowest margin in all six of those races, only 0.40% compared to over 10% wins by Bush; Rick Scott's two wins at the governor's race was by 1.2% and 1.0% respectively, but DeSantis' win was only 0.40%. So can anyone explain how Florida is now "far right"?
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