Why did West Virginia State Treasurer John Perdue lose last year?
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« on: December 26, 2021, 09:33:43 AM »

Why did he lose? He didn’t appear to have any scandals.
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2021, 09:54:48 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2021, 11:01:20 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2021, 04:53:39 PM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2021, 12:28:04 AM »

West Virginia is too Republican.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2021, 10:39:25 AM »
« Edited: December 27, 2021, 10:44:15 AM by One Term Floridian »

I mean you have to give him credit... he did about 27% better than his party's presidential nominee.

If Doug Jones* did that well in AL, he'd still be senator. That's just how absurdly Republican WV is now.

*Doug meanwhile only outperformed Biden by 5%.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2021, 10:48:33 AM »

It's not as simple as "He's a Democrat and West Virginia is too Republican."  It's that combined with the drastic reduction in split-ticket voting in recent years.  West Virginia reelected Perdue and elected Justice (then a Democrat) in 2016, even though Hillary did worse than Biden.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2021, 12:02:31 PM »

Partisan trends and the increasing nationalization of statewide races just became too much for him to overcome in 2020. Manchin is going to suffer from the same fate, in case the dude is delusional enough to run in 2024.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2021, 12:10:57 PM »

Third factor as well.
His opponent seems pretty good and he did really bad in the eastern panhandle. He ran 10 points behind Biden in Jefferson County.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2021, 06:23:00 AM »

Far too little split ticket voting.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2021, 07:34:46 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.


Manchin, Brown and Tester, 2024 are far better off than Demings, Ryan and Beasley in 2022 because turnout is higher among 18/29 yr olds in Prez yrs than in Midterms that's why McCaskill and Tester and Brown won on Split voting and Donnelly and Heidikamp in 2012 and McCaslill, Heidi and Donnelly and Bill Nelson all lost in 2018

2012 was a Prez Election
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2022, 06:09:16 PM »

People don't understand how much Perdue over-preformed, despite a significant loss.

This is if the Senate candidates outperformed their party's nominee by 27:

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D: 64 (+17)
R: 36 (-17)

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R: 63 (+10)
D: 37 (-10)
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2022, 12:53:08 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.

The main part was actually the lack of ticket-splitting in 2020. As a commenter said below, in 2016 Justice and Perdue won, while Hillary lost by almost the same margin as Biden did. As for Manchin, his BBB resistance has boosted his standing in WV. I imagine if some fiscally liberal bill passes, and satisfy enough Democratic voters in the state against the pressure to primary him from the progressives and even some county Democrats organizations, and stay away from socially liberal votes which could destroy his standing overall, then he could still win in 2024.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2022, 12:57:26 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.

The main part was actually the lack of ticket-splitting in 2020. As a commenter said below, in 2016 Justice and Perdue won, while Hillary lost by almost the same margin as Biden did. As for Manchin, his BBB resistance has boosted his standing in WV. I imagine if some fiscally liberal bill passes, and satisfy enough Democratic voters in the state against the pressure to primary him from the progressives and even some county Democrats organizations, and stay away from socially liberal votes which could destroy his standing overall, then he could still win in 2024.

Manchin winning in 2024 would probably be a serious contender for the most miraculous electoral result of my lifetime. Right up there with Joseph Cao.

It would be more shocking than Doug Jones or Scott Brown.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2022, 01:15:49 AM »

Isn't the answer obvious, it's West Virginia. As IceSpear used to say "it's full of rural, racist hicks."
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2022, 01:19:32 AM »

He lost for the same reason Manchin will lose by twenty or more points if he runs for reelection.

He's a Democrat in an absurdly Republican state.

The main part was actually the lack of ticket-splitting in 2020. As a commenter said below, in 2016 Justice and Perdue won, while Hillary lost by almost the same margin as Biden did. As for Manchin, his BBB resistance has boosted his standing in WV. I imagine if some fiscally liberal bill passes, and satisfy enough Democratic voters in the state against the pressure to primary him from the progressives and even some county Democrats organizations, and stay away from socially liberal votes which could destroy his standing overall, then he could still win in 2024.

Manchin winning in 2024 would probably be a serious contender for the most miraculous electoral result of my lifetime. Right up there with Joseph Cao.

It would be more shocking than Doug Jones or Scott Brown.

He won in 2018 49-46, when the Congressional vote was 58-40 GOP (with strong Dem candidates in the first and the second districts)
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