Nikita Khrushchev v. George W. Bush
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« on: October 21, 2006, 09:02:39 PM »

Contrary to popular belief, Khrushchev wasn't going to bury us, rather, simply attend our funeral.  So I go with him.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2006, 09:09:03 PM »

There are few scenarios in which I would vote for a Communist. This isn't one of them.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 04:39:02 PM »

I wouldn't mind seeing a debate between the two. Especially the part where Krushchev starts banging his shoe on the table.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 04:44:04 PM »

Contrary to popular belief, Khrushchev wasn't going to bury us, rather, simply attend our funeral.  So I go with him.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 04:46:04 PM »

Contrary to popular belief, Khrushchev wasn't going to bury us, rather, simply attend our funeral.  So I go with him.

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I actually didn't get that either, but I assumed it was some inside joke that everybody who's into politics would understand, except for me. So I didn't want to say anything lest people point and laugh at me.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 04:50:44 PM »

Contrary to popular belief, Khrushchev wasn't going to bury us, rather, simply attend our funeral.  So I go with him.

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I actually didn't get that either, but I assumed it was some inside joke that everybody who's into politics would understand, except for me. So I didn't want to say anything lest people point and laugh at me.

Well, don't worry about that, man.

The fact is, of course, that we attended the funeral of Khrushchev's ghastly regime, so I'm not sure what the funeral reference is really about.  And of Khrushchev did actually say "we will bury you," so there's no disputing that.

Anybody who would seriously prefer him over the current president has the maturity and intelligence of a lampshade.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 05:02:12 PM »

The funeral reference is to what most now believe Khrushchev really meant by that comment, it was basically saying something like "We will outlast you"
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2006, 05:03:32 PM »

The funeral reference is to what most now believe Khrushchev really meant by that comment, it was basically saying something like "We will outlast you"

He was wrong, wasn't he?  What a shame.

And he really meant, "We will bury you."
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2006, 06:25:43 PM »

Yeah, he was wrong. But still, the comment is usually misunderstood.

Unless you're an expert in Russian translation, you're not really in the position to definitively say what he really meant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2006, 06:34:03 PM »

Yeah, he was wrong. But still, the comment is usually misunderstood.

Unless you're an expert in Russian translation, you're not really in the position to definitively say what he really meant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

If you're not an expert in Russian translation, how do you know the comment was misunderstood?  If I'm not in position to definitively say what he really meant, then neither are you.

VP Nixon addressed Khrushchev's statement in their 1959 "Kitchen Debate," and he didn't deny the meaning then.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 06:16:53 PM »

Yeah, he was wrong. But still, the comment is usually misunderstood.

Unless you're an expert in Russian translation, you're not really in the position to definitively say what he really meant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

Didn't the Russian dude in Rocky 4 also say that line?
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 06:35:41 PM »

I'm actually Russian, so maybe I can lend a hand here.  The verb "хоронить" means roughly "to perform a funeral ceremony" and doesn't normally carry any killing-related connotation since it implies a respectful sort of burial.  Thus "Мы вас похороним" may well just mean "we'll be alive when you're not."  Nevertheless, it's an ambiguous statement, and neither side of the argument is really right.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2006, 06:53:52 AM »

I wouldn't mind seeing a debate between the two. Especially the part where Krushchev starts banging his shoe on the table.

That would be cool. I hope Bush gives the sort of performance he gave in his first debate with Kerry though. That would make for some interesting television.
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