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« on: December 08, 2021, 04:01:19 AM »

You can't do basic civil rights history without some of these words.

 And that's precisely the point Behind this measure.

 Conservatives like these would never admit it, least of all to themselves, but they'd be perfectly happy with a civil rights history "curriculum" that boiled down to simply" slavery was bad, Jim Crow was bad, then Martin Luther king came along and convinced white people to change, and things have been more or less OK since the mid sixties."


History education was fine the way it was taught in 2011 .
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2021, 04:10:52 AM »



Ok then should biology teachers be able to teach that creationism is real. There is a difference between being unable to post something on social media vs not being able to teach something to students as facts.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2021, 11:30:07 AM »

You can't do basic civil rights history without some of these words.

 And that's precisely the point Behind this measure.

 Conservatives like these would never admit it, least of all to themselves, but they'd be perfectly happy with a civil rights history "curriculum" that boiled down to simply" slavery was bad, Jim Crow was bad, then Martin Luther king came along and convinced white people to change, and things have been more or less OK since the mid sixties."


History education was fine the way it was taught in 2011 .

Was it though?


We are taught our nation was the greatest defender of freedom the world has ever seen , our founders were heroes , and yes we were taught the dark parts of our history like slavery and Jim Crow but we explained that we were still better than the rest of the world at the time .

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2021, 11:41:59 AM »



Ok then should biology teachers be able to teach that creationism is real. There is a difference between being unable to post something on social media vs not being able to teach something to students as facts.



1) Sociology is not science.
2) There’s a time and place for creationism to be taught. Writing/Grammar class or Social Studies class.


1. Thanks for admitting that which is why we actually have to be more vigilant about social studies since it’s easier to Teach propaganda in that 

2. No it should only be taught in a theology elective class
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2021, 11:45:55 AM »

You can't do basic civil rights history without some of these words.

 And that's precisely the point Behind this measure.

 Conservatives like these would never admit it, least of all to themselves, but they'd be perfectly happy with a civil rights history "curriculum" that boiled down to simply" slavery was bad, Jim Crow was bad, then Martin Luther king came along and convinced white people to change, and things have been more or less OK since the mid sixties."


History education was fine the way it was taught in 2011 .

Was it though?


We are taught our nation was the greatest defender of freedom the world has ever seen , our founders were heroes , and yes we were taught the dark parts of our history like slavery and Jim Crow but we explained that we were still better than the rest of the world at the time .



How did you type all that and come to the conclusion that your education was "fine" and without bias?

Better than anti American propaganda
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2021, 11:51:28 AM »

We are taught our nation was the greatest defender of freedom the world has ever seen , our founders were heroes , and yes we were taught the dark parts of our history like slavery and Jim Crow but we explained that we were still better than the rest of the world at the time .

How did you type all that and come to the conclusion that your education was "fine" and without bias?

Better than anti American propaganda

Good news, we are not limited to a binary choice between anti-American propaganda and pro-American propaganda. We can, in fact, teach the truth!


Good news we were taught the truth as we did learn about the dark parts of our history to such as slavery and Jim Crow .


We just didn’t demonize our founders over it
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2021, 05:55:44 PM »

Republcians and those who sympathize with them don't find racism and the structural impacts we feel to this very day offensive. What they find offensive is pointing it out, studying it, and god forbid addressing it. That's what all this CRT hysteria has always been about, that and huge heaping of anti-semitism.


You guys should run on CRT then rather than Secretly implement through our institutions. Let’s see how popular it actually is
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2021, 01:38:47 AM »

Republcians and those who sympathize with them don't find racism and the structural impacts we feel to this very day offensive. What they find offensive is pointing it out, studying it, and god forbid addressing it. That's what all this CRT hysteria has always been about, that and huge heaping of anti-semitism.


You guys should run on CRT then rather than Secretly implement through our institutions. Let’s see how popular it actually is
WHY THE F**K IS MUTICULTURALISM BANNED YOU ABSOLUTE NITWIT?!?!?! THAT ISNT F**KING CRT AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT BUT YOU DONT!!!
You and all Republicans must hate my multicultural family, BUT I WILL PROTECT MY FAMILY FIRST NO MATTER WHAT YOU TRY TO DO. GOD BLESS AMERICA. LONG LIVE MY PARENTS AND GRANDPRENTS AND YOU EVIL FACSCISTS WILL NEVER GO NEAR THEM!

I am responding to GP270 not the OP here and I disagree with some of the words on this list being banned as well.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2021, 01:44:09 AM »

Republcians and those who sympathize with them don't find racism and the structural impacts we feel to this very day offensive. What they find offensive is pointing it out, studying it, and god forbid addressing it. That's what all this CRT hysteria has always been about, that and huge heaping of anti-semitism.


You guys should run on CRT then rather than Secretly implement through our institutions. Let’s see how popular it actually is
WHY THE F**K IS MUTICULTURALISM BANNED YOU ABSOLUTE NITWIT?!?!?! THAT ISNT F**KING CRT AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT BUT YOU DONT!!!
You and all Republicans must hate my multicultural family, AND I WILL PROTECT MY FAMILY FIRST. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

OSR knows that "critical race theory" is a grad school topic and that it isn't taught in elementary schools. He knows it's a lie to label any mention of race in any way that makes white conservatives as CRT, he just doesn't care because he thinks it will help his party win next November. Sadly, he may be right about that since his whole party has no qualms about going "all in" on blatant, violent lies these days.


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