Who would you rather be president: Pinochet, or Marjorie Taylor Greene?

[TheReckoning]

As a related question, do you think MTG would willingly step down from office if she was voted out?

[John Dule]

I think Pinochet is at least capable of engaging with objective reality.

[kaoras]

As a related question, do you think MTG would willingly step down from office if she was voted out?

Pinochet didn't want to step down. He didn't want to recognize the results of the plebiscite, that's why the early results got stuck at like 2% showing the Yes ahead until 2 am in the morning. The Air Force Commander refused to sign Pinochet's decree giving all the powers and then went to the press to say that No won.

But well, at least this myth is more understandable than the "but muh the economy was good", which, no, it wasn't, it was awful.

Voted for MTG since I don't think she has raped women with dogs or tied children to trees telling them that they are going to kill his father.

[Big Abraham]

If you think that a loon from Georgia is worse than one of the most atrocious dictatorships the world has ever seen, then I am simply at a loss for words.

[kaoras]

BTW, I recently interviewed my grandmother about her experiences over the different chilean goverments:

My 3 brothers were from the Socialist Party, and the one that was arrested was ___. He was imprisoned, they tortured him, they did whatever they wanted to him. When the coup took place, they did not arrest him right away because he was hiding, but on September 20 they took him. When I went to see him in jail here in Valdivia, if his fingernails weren't missing, he was missing a tooth. I went to see him once and he was swollen from the beatings. I wanted to hug him and he told me "no sister" ... He had just arrived from the SIM.

The SIM was the place where they were tortured. One day when I went to visit him in jail, I arrived when they were taking him to torture. They were taking him and a guy called ___ , a man from Río Bueno who was also from the PS, they were blindfolded, feet and hands chained. The other man was crying and my brother was standing upright, his forehead held high and He nodded to me ... I went home crying because I started to think about the atrocities that were being done to him.

His family had a really bad time because their little children... they were very young, they tied them to trees and asked them where the weapons were. And what weapons? He didn't even have a gun. And they always threatened his wife that they were going to kill him, "tomorrow we will kill your husband" they told her.

(...)

He never offended anyone when he made his speeches, he never offended the rich and the rich people of Río Bueno helped him and got him out of jail. They started gathering signatures, I don't know how they did it, but they managed to get him out in 3 months, that's why they didn't kill him.

These are the kind of atrocities you people always relativize with these stupid questions or in those USGD threads. And honestly, this is fairly tame for the Dictatorship standards.

[Big Abraham]

BTW, I recently interviewed my grandmother about her experiences over the different chilean goverments:

My 3 brothers were from the Socialist Party, and the one that was arrested was ___. He was imprisoned, they tortured him, they did whatever they wanted to him. When the coup took place, they did not arrest him right away because he was hiding, but on September 20 they took him. When I went to see him in jail here in Valdivia, if his fingernails weren't missing, he was missing a tooth. I went to see him once and he was swollen from the beatings. I wanted to hug him and he told me "no sister" ... He had just arrived from the SIM.

The SIM was the place where they were tortured. One day when I went to visit him in jail, I arrived when they were taking him to torture. They were taking him and a guy called ___ , a man from Río Bueno who was also from the PS, they were blindfolded, feet and hands chained. The other man was crying and my brother was standing upright, his forehead held high and He nodded to me ... I went home crying because I started to think about the atrocities that were being done to him.

His family had a really bad time because their little children... they were very young, they tied them to trees and asked them where the weapons were. And what weapons? He didn't even have a gun. And they always threatened his wife that they were going to kill him, "tomorrow we will kill your husband" they told her.

(...)

He never offended anyone when he made his speeches, he never offended the rich and the rich people of Río Bueno helped him and got him out of jail. They started gathering signatures, I don't know how they did it, but they managed to get him out in 3 months, that's why they didn't kill him.

These are the kind of atrocities you people always relativize with these stupid questions or in those USGD threads. And honestly, this is fairly tame for the Dictatorship standards.

Pfft, that's nothing compared to the cruelties committed by Greene in the 14th congressional district!

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Even if MTG is as evil as Pinochet, incompetent evil is better than competent evil.

[Cokeland Saxton]

MTG because she's too incompetent to actually do anything

[TheReckoning]

MTG because she's too incompetent to actually do anything

How is being able to do nothing a good quality in leader? Don’t you want a leader who can act in the time of crisis?

Also, I don’t see how stupidity makes someone harmless.

[TheReckoning]

BTW, I recently interviewed my grandmother about her experiences over the different chilean goverments:

My 3 brothers were from the Socialist Party, and the one that was arrested was ___. He was imprisoned, they tortured him, they did whatever they wanted to him. When the coup took place, they did not arrest him right away because he was hiding, but on September 20 they took him. When I went to see him in jail here in Valdivia, if his fingernails weren't missing, he was missing a tooth. I went to see him once and he was swollen from the beatings. I wanted to hug him and he told me "no sister" ... He had just arrived from the SIM.

The SIM was the place where they were tortured. One day when I went to visit him in jail, I arrived when they were taking him to torture. They were taking him and a guy called ___ , a man from Río Bueno who was also from the PS, they were blindfolded, feet and hands chained. The other man was crying and my brother was standing upright, his forehead held high and He nodded to me ... I went home crying because I started to think about the atrocities that were being done to him.

His family had a really bad time because their little children... they were very young, they tied them to trees and asked them where the weapons were. And what weapons? He didn't even have a gun. And they always threatened his wife that they were going to kill him, "tomorrow we will kill your husband" they told her.

(...)

He never offended anyone when he made his speeches, he never offended the rich and the rich people of Río Bueno helped him and got him out of jail. They started gathering signatures, I don't know how they did it, but they managed to get him out in 3 months, that's why they didn't kill him.

These are the kind of atrocities you people always relativize with these stupid questions or in those USGD threads. And honestly, this is fairly tame for the Dictatorship standards.

Pfft, that's nothing compared to the cruelties committed by Greene in the 14th congressional district!

Wouldn’t you say Pinochet has a kill count much lower than the average post-WW2 president though?

[H. Ross Peron]

As a related question, do you think MTG would willingly step down from office if she was voted out?

Pinochet didn't want to step down. He didn't want to recognize the results of the plebiscite, that's why the early results got stuck at like 2% showing the Yes ahead until 2 am in the morning. The Air Force Commander refused to sign Pinochet's decree giving all the powers and then went to the press to say that No won.

But well, at least this myth is more understandable than the "but muh the economy was good", which, no, it wasn't, it was awful.

Voted for MTG since I don't think she has raped women with dogs or tied children to trees telling them that they are going to kill his father.

This. Also MTG is an idiot and would do far less harm.

[Mr. Reactionary]

MTG never blew up a car in Washington D.C.

[Ferguson97]

MTG is an evil lunatic, but Pinochet is a thousand times worse.

As a related question, do you think MTG would willingly step down from office if she was voted out?

Again with this. The President doesn't have a choice in the matter. They are constitutionally no longer President at January 20 12pm. The Secret Service would drag her out kicking and screaming.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

MJT is a much better human being.

[Vice President Christian Man]

I doubt MTG's administration would kill critics of her or establish a dictatorship, so I'd have to go with her. Even though she's more vocal about her support of conspiracy theories compared to Trump, I don't think she'd govern differently from him.

[SWE]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

[Senator Incitatus]

Pinochet is dead and was not an American.

[TheReckoning]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

[SWE]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

It's very easy to not apologize for, downplay, or otherwise defend mass murder and yet

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

Varies but probably in the hundred of thousands for all of them minimum. Biden might not be there yet but I'm sure he'll make it

[TheReckoning]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

It's very easy to not apologize for, downplay, or otherwise defend mass murder and yet

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

Varies but probably in the hundred of thousands for all of them minimum. Biden might not be there yet but I'm sure he'll make it

Pinochet killed about 3,000 people though- much less than our own presidents. You can argue that’s partially because of how he controlled a much smaller and less powerful country, but it isn’t it worth thinking about when asking this question? Also, do you think MTG would kill significantly more people as president than Obama/Bush/Clinton?

[Vice President Christian Man]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

There's some truth to what you're saying but the number doesn't matter. Torturing one person is wrong and immoral.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

It's very easy to not apologize for, downplay, or otherwise defend mass murder and yet

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

Varies but probably in the hundred of thousands for all of them minimum. Biden might not be there yet but I'm sure he'll make it

So far Biden has probably been the least interventionist President since WW2 and his most notable military action is ending the US's longest military involvement in its history.

[GregTheGreat657]

MTG (sane, normal)

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Pinochet thought the government should do stuff, he is the more progression option.

[Hindsight was 2020]

MTG would be too distracted by whatever nonsensical right wing outrage moment of the week like Mr Potato Head or Cat in the Hat to be able to set up death camps for her critics.

3,000 people killed over 17 years does not indicate “death camps” in any meaningful terms.

It's very easy to not apologize for, downplay, or otherwise defend mass murder and yet

Here’s a question that’s slightly unrelated: how many people do you think Trump, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc. killed?

Varies but probably in the hundred of thousands for all of them minimum. Biden might not be there yet but I'm sure he'll make it

Dafaq are you getting those #’s from?