Will 2024 be free and fair?

[All Along The Watchtower]

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If Trump wins, it'll be the most freest and fairest election in the history of the universal universe, and if a few dead Republicans happen to vote in MI or PA or WI, well that's not the fault of us - that's just librul commie propaganda lies.

If Trump loses, it's the biggest sham of an election that's ever been held, worse than any crock election in any third world country because Crippled America is being ruined by librul radical commies.

So basically it depends on whether Cheeto wins or loses because like everything else in American politics, everything revolves around Cheeto's fat ass.

[ElectionsGuy]

If your partisan affiliation matches with the winning party, it will be the freest and fairest election ever held (as claimed by Dems in 2020)

If your partisan affiliation does not match with the winning party, it will be the most fraudulent election ever held (as claimed by Trump in 2020).

[Ferguson97]

I think there is a serious chance that Republicans in Congress will reject a slate of electors from a few close Biden states.

[DavidB.]

Probably free, but not fair, as there will be no level playing field with regard to media coverage and social media censorship. Opinions and values unfriendly to the globalist regime are deemed "misinformation".

[jamestroll]

I do expect  a civil war after the 2024 election... so theres that..

[Mr. Smith]

None of them have TRULY been free or fair.

[SnowLabrador]

No. In fact, it doesn't even matter who wins, since SCOTUS will award the election to Trump.

[Suburbia]

No. In fact, it doesn't even matter who wins, since SCOTUS will award the election to Trump.

And what happens after? Civil war? What will 2025 and 2026 look like?

[SnowLabrador]

No. In fact, it doesn't even matter who wins, since SCOTUS will award the election to Trump.

And what happens after? Civil war? What will 2025 and 2026 look like?

It won't be pretty, that's for sure. Likely an authoritarian crackdown.

[Continential]

Yes, regardless of the outcome.

[BlueSwan]

If your partisan affiliation matches with the winning party, it will be the freest and fairest election ever held (as claimed by Dems in 2020)

If your partisan affiliation does not match with the winning party, it will be the most fraudulent election ever held (as claimed by Trump in 2020).

"both sides"-nonsense alert!

[Pericles]

As free and fair as  the normal American election, so tolerable but still with some serious flaws.

[MABA 2020]

I do expect  a civil war after the 2024 election... so theres that..

I don't expect there to be a civil war which in a way is even more depressing, Trump is gonna steal the election which will cause massive protests and lots of shouting from democrats but ultimately he'll get away with it. Like 2000 it'll just be accepted like "oh well better luck next time"

[ElectionsGuy]

If your partisan affiliation matches with the winning party, it will be the freest and fairest election ever held (as claimed by Dems in 2020)

If your partisan affiliation does not match with the winning party, it will be the most fraudulent election ever held (as claimed by Trump in 2020).

"both sides"-nonsense alert!

Oh just wait until the next time a Democrat loses. If you thought the Russia stuff was bad...

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It depends on 22 really and what type of Govt we have

[BlueSwan]

If your partisan affiliation matches with the winning party, it will be the freest and fairest election ever held (as claimed by Dems in 2020)

If your partisan affiliation does not match with the winning party, it will be the most fraudulent election ever held (as claimed by Trump in 2020).

"both sides"-nonsense alert!

Oh just wait until the next time a Democrat loses. If you thought the Russia stuff was bad...

We just lost Virginia. There was no outcry of fraud. Instead there was the usual D reaction, which is to panic. Exactly like in previous elections where D's have lost. You are making a bad faith argument.

[MarkD]

Has any presidential election in the United States ever been free and fair? Haven't they all had some fraud and/or cheating? Don't we have reason to believe that there was fraud and/or cheating that could have affected the outcome every single time, from 1788 to now?

(Loads of s/)

[Inmate Trump]

No.

Republicans in states across the country are hard at work ensuring the 2024 election won't be fair.

[Tekken_Guy]

No.

Republicans in states across the country are hard at work ensuring the 2024 election won't be fair.

There's only so much they can do. To pull the coup off successfully they need
-Trifectas or veto-proof majorities in states with at least 270 electoral votes
-At least 51 senators
-At least 218 representatives
-At least 5 Supreme Court justices

Trump (or any Republican) needs to get them all on board. There may still be a lot of institutionalists in all of those bodies who won't go along with something that dangerous.

A legitimate Republican victory is still way more likely than a coup.

[Aurelius]

I do expect  a civil war after the 2024 election... so theres that..

Why would this happen? There were decades of lead-up to our Civil War, which was fought over a sharply sectional issue (slavery was illegal in Northern states and deeply institutionalized in Southern states). Civil wars don't just happen on a whim over closely fought, even contested, elections. We're not a third world country.

Something like 60% of Trump voters believe the election was stolen, and look what that gave us, a few hundred looney tune rioters storming the capitol, and almost all of them are sitting in the clink now.

[BlueSwan]

No.

Republicans in states across the country are hard at work ensuring the 2024 election won't be fair.

There's only so much they can do. To pull the coup off successfully they need
-Trifectas or veto-proof majorities in states with at least 270 electoral votes
-At least 51 senators
-At least 218 representatives
-At least 5 Supreme Court justices

Trump (or any Republican) needs to get them all on board. There may still be a lot of institutionalists in all of those bodies who won't go along with something that dangerous.

A legitimate Republican victory is still way more likely than a coup.

Not really true. All they need is control of a few key swing states and change the state laws to allow for the legislatures to appoint their own electors - which indeed they are working on. They basically already have control of those key swing states and it will undoubtedly be even worse after the 2022 midterms.

[Coolface’s actual roommate]

If Dems steal it, then no

[Duke of York]

No.

Republicans in states across the country are hard at work ensuring the 2024 election won't be fair.

There's only so much they can do. To pull the coup off successfully they need
-Trifectas or veto-proof majorities in states with at least 270 electoral votes
-At least 51 senators
-At least 218 representatives
-At least 5 Supreme Court justices

Trump (or any Republican) needs to get them all on board. There may still be a lot of institutionalists in all of those bodies who won't go along with something that dangerous.

A legitimate Republican victory is still way more likely than a coup.

Not really true. All they need is control of a few key swing states and change the state laws to allow for the legislatures to appoint their own electors - which indeed they are working on. They basically already have control of those key swing states and it will undoubtedly be even worse after the 2022 midterms.

There is no way Harris would go along with this if its obvious Democrats won the states. She will reject the alternative electors.

[Cassandra]

No.

Republicans in states across the country are hard at work ensuring the 2024 election won't be fair.

There's only so much they can do. To pull the coup off successfully they need
-Trifectas or veto-proof majorities in states with at least 270 electoral votes
-At least 51 senators
-At least 218 representatives
-At least 5 Supreme Court justices

Trump (or any Republican) needs to get them all on board. There may still be a lot of institutionalists in all of those bodies who won't go along with something that dangerous.

A legitimate Republican victory is still way more likely than a coup.

Not really true. All they need is control of a few key swing states and change the state laws to allow for the legislatures to appoint their own electors - which indeed they are working on. They basically already have control of those key swing states and it will undoubtedly be even worse after the 2022 midterms.

There is no way Harris would go along with this if its obvious Democrats won the states. She will reject the alternative electors.

Harris does not have that power, just as Pence did not. The (likely Republican) congress will adjourn into separate houses to decide the matter.