If Blacks started voting like Hispanics, how does the map change?
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« on: November 20, 2021, 12:14:52 AM »

If black voters voted the way Hispanics do, how would the electoral map change?
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2021, 12:32:32 AM »

-Georgia and North Carolina regularly go R by double digits.
-Virginia becomes Tilt R.
-Florida consistently votes around R+10.
-The rest of the South is even redder than it is now.
-Maryland is still clearly a blue state, but the margins are around D+15 rather than D+30.
-Illinois and New Jersey still lean Dem, but are significantly closer.
-Delaware becomes a swing state.
-Pennsylvania and Michigan vote like Ohio does IRL, while Ohio is completely out of reach for Democrats.

Needless to say, the GOP would be clearly be the dominant party in this alignment.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2022, 08:31:37 PM »

2020 US Presidential Election Map is the Black Americans of each state voted the same way as the Hispanic Americans of their state, using data from statewide AP Votecast surveys (for states with no specific info on racial voting breakdowns, national numbers were used):



The tipping point state is Pennsylvania: Trump+4
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2022, 08:34:27 PM »

2020 US Presidential Election Map is the Black Americans of each state voted the same way as the Hispanic Americans of their state, using data from statewide AP Votecast surveys (for states with no specific info on racial voting breakdowns, national numbers were used):



The tipping point state is Pennsylvania: Trump+4
Striking how similar this is to the 2016 map, except for NV (that must have been really close anyway).
What does the map look like if Latinos voted like Blacks?
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2022, 09:26:52 PM »

And yet I get Republicans on this forum saying to me they don't need the black vote.  Clearly you do, unless you just enjoy the challenge of trying to win without them. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2022, 09:37:47 PM »

2020 US Presidential Election Map is the Black Americans of each state voted the same way as the Hispanic Americans of their state, using data from statewide AP Votecast surveys (for states with no specific info on racial voting breakdowns, national numbers were used):



The tipping point state is Pennsylvania: Trump+4
Striking how similar this is to the 2016 map, except for NV (that must have been really close anyway).
What does the map look like if Latinos voted like Blacks?

And would it be different from 2020 + TX + FL + NC?

And yet I get Republicans on this forum saying to me they don't need the black vote.  Clearly you do, unless you just enjoy the challenge of trying to win without them. 

Republicans doing better with black voters (beyond the inevitable baseline slight R trend) would also help them win over more Latinos and Asians than in the status quo.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2022, 09:56:16 PM »

The GOP would be dominant in the short term but the Democrats would adjust and after 6-8 years in the Wilderness, things would be 50/50 again. The Reason is getting this result for the GOP would have to make them change some of their policies which then would inevitably cause some voters to get upset and move to the Dems.

This is what has basically happened every time a party has seemed dominant since the late 60s and would happen again.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2022, 11:35:00 PM »

Rust belt/MidAtlantic a lot more R, Georgia moves into safe R
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2022, 02:07:01 AM »

And yet I get Republicans on this forum saying to me they don't need the black vote.  Clearly you do, unless you just enjoy the challenge of trying to win without them. 

The GOP can win while doing pathetically with black voters. However, if they can improve their performance with black voters, that makes it (for obvious reasons) significantly harder for the Democrats to beat them...I mean, even ignoring a dramatic change like that suggested in the OP, blacks moving just enough to the right could flip, say, GA, WI, PA (and that, in 2020, would've been enough to seal the deal for Donald).
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