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« Reply #1775 on: April 01, 2004, 08:08:28 pm »

Bush is going to win by a landslide, and their is nother you democrates can do about it.
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« Reply #1776 on: April 01, 2004, 08:09:10 pm »




Jesus type troll
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« Reply #1777 on: April 01, 2004, 08:10:09 pm »
« Edited: April 01, 2004, 08:12:55 pm by Lunar »

Bush is going to win by a landslide, and their is nother you democrates can do about it.


Nothing like good, rational arguments!  Even the GOP is preparing for a close race.  Unless some miracle happens, like discovering Kerry has some skeletons in his closet, or war starting with China, that's very unlikely based on all of the polling trends.  I've heard that Bush's polls are the lowest of any incumbant who's been reelected in history at that point in time (a month ago).

Believing that Bush's sweat is holy and that Kerry is a cross between Stalin and Satan, which is perfectly ok, doesn't force you to somehow believe that it'll be 70-30 in the end results.
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« Reply #1778 on: April 02, 2004, 01:43:29 am »

or Albania for that matter...

*starts whistling good 'ole shoe...*
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« Reply #1779 on: April 02, 2004, 11:46:19 am »

or Albania for that matter...

*starts whistling good 'ole shoe...*

'We guard America's borders...'

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« Reply #1780 on: April 02, 2004, 12:05:34 pm »

Bush is going to win by a landslide, and their is nother you democrates can do about it.



No...we've been given our marching orders... if only we realised that Bush was this really great guy like the rest of the nation... sure most of them voted against him in 2000... but now they are penitent... for low the blue states now bleed red with a hundred million dollars of ads... ahhhhh..... we can't do a thing... we just suck so bad....


Clearly you see i might have been expecting a little bit of a better reasoned argument here....

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« Reply #1781 on: April 02, 2004, 12:13:08 pm »

It will be another close election, with only a handful of "swing states".  Please, this time, no recounts!!! If you do not know how to vote, PLEASE ask for help or stay home.
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« Reply #1782 on: April 02, 2004, 01:08:29 pm »

Bush is going to win by a landslide, and their is nother you democrates can do about it.



No...we've been given our marching orders... if only we realised that Bush was this really great guy like the rest of the nation... sure most of them voted against him in 2000... but now they are penitent... for low the blue states now bleed red with a hundred million dollars of ads... ahhhhh..... we can't do a thing... we just suck so bad....


Clearly you see i might have been expecting a little bit of a better reasoned argument here....



Sorry didnít get much sleep... trying and failing to get these festival tickets... lower toleration level for that kinda thing... sorry might have gone off the handle... but I stick by saying "that one of the least concise arguments concerning this election Iíve ever heard"... right Iím done now...  
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« Reply #1783 on: April 02, 2004, 04:41:00 pm »

UPDATED Kerry v. Bush:



Bush 361
Kerry 177
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« Reply #1784 on: April 02, 2004, 05:04:48 pm »

ouch
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« Reply #1785 on: April 02, 2004, 05:05:27 pm »


ouch yourself
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« Reply #1786 on: April 02, 2004, 05:42:45 pm »

FL could go either way but I'm guessing GOP and I don't think Richardson makes a difference there.

I don't know why you can say that Richardson would make a difference with Hispanics in the Southwest but not in Florida.

Because I think he would make much less difference to Hispanics in Florida than in the Southwest.  These are two very different groups of hispanics.  Besides, as I said above he wouldn't swing AZ, NV, or CO anyway, just NM.
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« Reply #1787 on: April 02, 2004, 06:59:54 pm »

Can't really say why I guess but I really just want to see the Kerry/Richardson ticket. Though I think their are a couple competative combos.

Just thinking about a debate between Cheney and Richardson would be interesting.  
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=4&u=/ap/20040402/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_pelosi
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« Reply #1788 on: April 02, 2004, 07:39:36 pm »

Has Democrat strength in California peaked?

Between 2001 and 2004, Republican registration increased in 21 of 40 state senate districts and 39 of 80 assembly districts. Democrats lost registration in every state senate district and in 78 assembly districts. Republicans are watching Democrat Mike Machado's Stockton-area 5th Senate District where GOP registration grew 2 percent. The 5th is in the same neighborhood as the state's 12th S.D. where Republican Jeff Denham's 2002 victory stunned Democrats who had considered the seat safely in their column.

GOP strategists are also watching the southern San Joaquin Valley's 30th and 31st assembly districts where their Party's registration share jumped 2 and 3.2 percent respectively. Both districts have been trending Republican for several years.

The state's partisan registration gap shrank. A post-Primary analysis of California political trends shows the Democrat advantage in statewide voter registration has diminished to its smallest margin since the early 1930s, 7.65 percent.

Republican registration has leveled off at slightly more than 35 percent while the Democrat share has dipped to 43.2 percent. Decline-to-state registration stands at 16.43 percent, with minor parties accounting for 4.82 percent.
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« Reply #1789 on: April 03, 2004, 05:22:55 am »

UPDATED Kerry v. Bush:



Bush 361
Kerry 177

Michigan and Washington are not going to go to Bush other than that its pretty much a best case for Bush (well in a best case as well as adding WA and MI to Kerry I'd add WV to Bush)... but i really donít see such a wipe out... i think you are underrating Kerry, but then again what the ?$£"&* has he been doing lately he should be on TV all the time when he can't get ads and he should have surrogates on too... but despite all that i think you underrate him..  
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« Reply #1790 on: April 05, 2004, 11:52:45 am »

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=4&u=/ap/20040405/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_vice_president

Any extremely different and realistic  maps with these different VP possibilities.  
Especially Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, William Cohen, Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson

aslo
Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack
Rep. Dick Gephardt
North Carolina Sen. John Edwards
Bob Kerrey
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« Reply #1791 on: April 05, 2004, 01:48:47 pm »

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=4&u=/ap/20040405/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_vice_president

Any extremely different and realistic  maps with these different VP possibilities.  
Especially Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, William Cohen, Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson

aslo
Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack
Rep. Dick Gephardt
North Carolina Sen. John Edwards
Bob Kerrey

I don't see any maps at the link you just posted.
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« Reply #1792 on: April 05, 2004, 01:49:26 pm »

I am deliberating whether to send California, Illinois, and WV over to Bush.
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« Reply #1793 on: April 05, 2004, 02:05:35 pm »
« Edited: April 05, 2004, 02:07:09 pm by Lunar »

California?  California has been getting MORE liberal, not less.  Arnold isn't even campaigning for Bush (because Bush refuses to give us any money, or at least the same amount as  before, I think).  The hands-off approach of the federal government towards Enron, both while they were butchering our economy and the relaxed approach towards the prosecution doesn't help.

You sure you don't want to give Vermont and DC to him as well as Illinois and California?

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« Reply #1794 on: April 05, 2004, 02:07:53 pm »

California?  California has been getting MORE liberal, not less.  Arnold isn't even campaigning for Bush (because Bush refuses to give us any money, or at least the same amount as  before, I think).  The hands-off approach of the federal government towards Enron, both while they were butchering our economy and the relaxed approach towards the prosecution doesn't help.

You sure you don't want to give Vermont and DC to him as well as Illinois and California?



Maybe Vermont, not DC.
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« Reply #1795 on: April 05, 2004, 02:13:37 pm »
« Edited: April 05, 2004, 02:13:57 pm by Lunar »

So, maybe something like this, if Kerry's LUCKY?!



I think you're out of touch.  You automatically (and falsely) assume everyone will adopt your view of Kerry (even though your view is probably right).
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« Reply #1796 on: April 05, 2004, 02:18:16 pm »

So, maybe something like this, if Kerry's LUCKY?!



I think you're out of touch.  You automatically (and falsely) assume everyone will adopt your view of Kerry (even though your view is probably right).

I could see that heppening, just as HI to Kerry.
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« Reply #1797 on: April 05, 2004, 02:32:41 pm »

So, maybe something like this, if Kerry's LUCKY?!



I think you're out of touch.  You automatically (and falsely) assume everyone will adopt your view of Kerry (even though your view is probably right).

I could see that heppening, just as HI to Kerry.

I would be drunk for the next week if Bush won by that much. lol
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« Reply #1798 on: April 05, 2004, 02:34:10 pm »


Won't happen
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« Reply #1799 on: April 05, 2004, 02:36:29 pm »

If their is a God in heaven he will! lol Wink

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