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« Reply #5825 on: March 05, 2022, 07:28:29 AM »
Indian media is saying that Ukraine media reports that Denis Kireev who was part of the Ukraine delegation for talks with Russia has been killed in Kyiv by SBU due to suspicion of treason.
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« Reply #5826 on: March 05, 2022, 07:30:27 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on March 04, 2022, 11:04:00 PM
Quote from: NOVA Green on March 04, 2022, 10:50:18 PM
I think I might just stop posting on this thread or minimize, since it doesn't really appear anybody gives an "eff".

Maybe better to shift and share news to my social network on Facebook, where at least it will get a much greater reach both domestically and internationally.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who reads your posts in this thread with interest.  They are appreciated.  I don't usually comment on them because I don't have much to add to their content.

Yeah, I read his posts & links (when possible) as well although I'm usually doing this before or after work in which case I don't really have the time to respond, unfortunately.
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« Reply #5827 on: March 05, 2022, 07:47:18 AM »
Quote from: jaichind on March 05, 2022, 07:28:29 AM
Indian media is saying that Ukraine media reports that Denis Kireev who was part of the Ukraine delegation for talks with Russia has been killed in Kyiv by SBU due to suspicion of treason.
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« Reply #5828 on: March 05, 2022, 08:00:37 AM »
Quote from: ugabug on March 05, 2022, 07:17:24 AM
Perhaps a bit optimistic on the other hand seeing the amount of trouble that northern convoy is having with it's supplies and the state of the Russian economy and i have seen others (like that Marco Rubio tweet) saying similar enough that i can't help but wonder if he won't be right.



It does look like they are running out of precision-guided munitions and therefore having to fly their warplanes lower. Oryx is quite strict in only recording losses he can visually confirm, but he reports a pretty serious uptick in downed Russian aircraft, including the Su-34 (brought into service in 2014):



“About to collapse” is likely propaganda, but the Western failure to provide longer-range SAMs looks increasingly short-sighted and mean.
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« Reply #5829 on: March 05, 2022, 08:12:52 AM »
Sweden and Finland have announced that they will immediately deepen their military cooperation

So I guess it basically means, an attack on Finland is an attack on Sweden and vice versa
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« Reply #5830 on: March 05, 2022, 08:18:42 AM »



Apparently it’s been broken by the Russians, preventing the evacuation of civilians.
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« Reply #5831 on: March 05, 2022, 08:23:41 AM »
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Apparently it’s been broken by the Russians, preventing the evacuation of civilians.

Aleppo moment. Not remotely surprising.
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« Reply #5832 on: March 05, 2022, 08:40:28 AM »
A squib appears about Ukraine and avenues to send humanitarian aid via a blog in Hudson, NY.
 
https://gossipsofrivertown.blogspot.com/2022/03/aid-and-support-for-ukraine.html
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« Reply #5833 on: March 05, 2022, 09:27:21 AM »
I am struggling to see how Russia gets a total victory at this point even a victory at all may be unlikely.
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1500113298351693828
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« Reply #5834 on: March 05, 2022, 10:01:16 AM »
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« Reply #5835 on: March 05, 2022, 10:03:09 AM »

So, for those of you wanting more frequent updates on the war in Ukraine, here is an Ukrainian source that’s updated during the day as events happen. Probably is biased in favor of Ukraine, but then again so is reality.
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« Reply #5836 on: March 05, 2022, 10:16:23 AM »
Russian Air Force getting battered today.
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« Reply #5837 on: March 05, 2022, 10:18:17 AM »
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« Reply #5838 on: March 05, 2022, 10:57:20 AM »
If this is true than it's absolutely disgusting.
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« Reply #5839 on: March 05, 2022, 11:02:08 AM »
Quote from: ugabug on March 05, 2022, 10:57:20 AM
If this is true than it's absolutely disgusting.



I had read on Twitter right after the evacuation corridors were announced speculation that Russia would do exactly this. Sad
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« Reply #5840 on: March 05, 2022, 11:04:16 AM »
Quote from: ugabug on March 05, 2022, 10:57:20 AM
If this is true than it's absolutely disgusting.



If true there probably will be no peace as long as Russia doesn't have a more trustworthy political leadership.
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« Reply #5841 on: March 05, 2022, 11:10:37 AM »
Not sure how much truth there is to claims by Rubio and others that Russia is doomed and can't sustain this much longer. It could be propaganda to boost Ukrainian resistance. That said, looking how inept the Russians conduct their operation, I think the narrative Russia could just overroll NATO members in Eastern Europe with ground troops was always wrong. Very likely NATO could quickly handle an intervention, and if Russia wasn't a nuclear power and American drones and special forces got involved in Ukraine, Mr. Putin would get his a-- kicked out very quickly.

My only concern is that Putin will do exactly what he has done in Aleppo and elsewhere; just bomb one city after another into the ground. He's obviously not getting Ukraine under control or be celebrated as the liberator, but his ego doesn't allow to just pull out. So he'll go all in and order the worst war crimes imagineable in this day and age. Question is only whether Russian power elites have the influence, ressources and will to take him out. Or whether the PRC has enough at some point and is able to pressure him into exit.
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« Reply #5842 on: March 05, 2022, 11:18:55 AM »
There's a decent chance he'll run out of bombs first. Something has gone very wrong with Russian logistics.
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« Reply #5843 on: March 05, 2022, 11:26:04 AM »
Quote from: Silent Hunter on March 05, 2022, 11:18:55 AM
There's a decent chance he'll run out of bombs first. Something has gone very wrong with Russian logistics.
That's a bold assumption, that Russia had logistics to begin with.
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« Reply #5844 on: March 05, 2022, 11:28:01 AM »

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« Reply #5845 on: March 05, 2022, 11:31:11 AM »
Russia bringing in the elite reinforcements:
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« Reply #5846 on: March 05, 2022, 11:38:51 AM »


Southern offensive repelled
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« Reply #5847 on: March 05, 2022, 11:39:16 AM »
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 05, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Russia bringing in the elite reinforcements:



When Russia sends its trucks, they're not sending their best.
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« Reply #5848 on: March 05, 2022, 11:41:10 AM »

Time for more Ukrainian Propaganda! Grin
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« Reply #5849 on: March 05, 2022, 11:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 05, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Russia bringing in the elite reinforcements:


lol. The US army in 1900 was more advanced than the Russian army today.
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