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« Reply #3225 on: February 26, 2022, 02:16:43 PM »


Slovakia punching way above its weight.

Meanwhile Germany gave 5,000 helmets.
You don’t understand, Germany has been having it really tough lately. Such an impoverished country, they can’t give anymore.
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« Reply #3226 on: February 26, 2022, 02:17:07 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-chechen-leader-says-his-forces-deployed-ukraine-2022-02-26/?taid=621a48a73cade0000100f946&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Chechen deployment now confirmed. God help all Ukrainians, this will be ugly.
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« Reply #3227 on: February 26, 2022, 02:17:18 PM »

Would it be legal for an American to go to Ukraine and fight? I heard Zelensky is providing arms to those who go to Ukraine to fight, I just want to know legality.

U.S. , 163 U.S. 632 (1896), the Supreme Court endorsed a lower court ruling that it was not a crime under U.S. law for an individual to go abroad for the purpose of enlisting in a foreign army
Thank you! I’ll spend Spring Break (week after this) with my mother and discuss this, in the mean time I can probably plan travel for a city in Poland and then take transit to get to the border, but I have time to plan.

Do note, however, that if one accepts a promotion to serve as an officer in a foreign military, then they'll have implicitly consented to a relinquishing of their American citizenship, which the Court ruled in Afroyim v. Rusk (1967) as constituting legitimate constitutional grounds to involuntarily strip an American citizen of their citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

ALSO note: I am NOT a lawyer & what I have written does NOT in any way constitute legitimate legal advice, as it's meant for purely explanatory purposes only; seriously, guy, pls don't go get yourself killed based on what a rando netizen said.
…oh yikes, I do not want to lose my citizenship in the case I somehow survive, but maybe a paramilitary wouldn’t count as a foreign military? I could always talk to legal professionals first, I want to know the full consequences of what I am doing before I go.
As for dying, yeah I don’t want to die, but we all do have to die eventually. I’d rather go out for a good cause than of old age.

I wouldn’t do it in any case, an American found in Ukrainian uniform would cause an international incident.
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« Reply #3228 on: February 26, 2022, 02:17:46 PM »

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« Reply #3229 on: February 26, 2022, 02:18:21 PM »

Would it be legal for an American to go to Ukraine and fight? I heard Zelensky is providing arms to those who go to Ukraine to fight, I just want to know legality.

U.S. , 163 U.S. 632 (1896), the Supreme Court endorsed a lower court ruling that it was not a crime under U.S. law for an individual to go abroad for the purpose of enlisting in a foreign army
Thank you! I’ll spend Spring Break (week after this) with my mother and discuss this, in the mean time I can probably plan travel for a city in Poland and then take transit to get to the border, but I have time to plan.

Do note, however, that if one accepts a promotion to serve as an officer in a foreign military, then they'll have implicitly consented to a relinquishing of their American citizenship, which the Court ruled in Afroyim v. Rusk (1967) as constituting legitimate constitutional grounds to involuntarily strip an American citizen of their citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

ALSO note: I am NOT a lawyer & what I have written does NOT in any way constitute legitimate legal advice, as it's meant for purely explanatory purposes only; seriously, guy, pls don't go get yourself killed based on what a rando netizen said.
…oh yikes, I do not want to lose my citizenship in the case I somehow survive, but maybe a paramilitary wouldn’t count as a foreign military? I could always talk to legal professionals first, I want to know the full consequences of what I am doing before I go.
As for dying, yeah I don’t want to die, but we all do have to die eventually. I’d rather go out for a good cause than of old age.

I wouldn’t do it in any case, an American found in Ukrainian uniform would cause an international incident.

…good point. Didn’t think about that.
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« Reply #3230 on: February 26, 2022, 02:18:43 PM »


Slovakia punching way above its weight.

Meanwhile Germany gave 5,000 helmets.

Germany have actually given quite a lot of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons now.
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« Reply #3231 on: February 26, 2022, 02:19:36 PM »


Slovakia punching way above its weight.

Meanwhile Germany gave 5,000 helmets.

Germany have actually given quite a lot of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons now.

Glad to hear it. Hadn't seen that. Wish they'd stop dragging their feet on SWIFT now.
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« Reply #3232 on: February 26, 2022, 02:19:41 PM »

I don't know, is it just me or does it seem that all dams are breaking in recent hours? All the sanctions, a protest wave across the globe and the boycotts. I really wonder whether Putin expected this as well as the immense and brave resistance of Ukraine?

I'm glad the German government finally came along. Should have done so much earlier. We were delusional about Russia all too long, all political parties from left to right.

There's for sure something going on. Putler may not have expected this, though I'm skeptical he's impressed enough to pull out. He'd look like a loser that caved, which wouldn't fit into the strongman image he has given himself.
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« Reply #3233 on: February 26, 2022, 02:21:23 PM »


Biden should drone them before they arrive.
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« Reply #3234 on: February 26, 2022, 02:24:11 PM »

Really trying to make the song in my sig go to life.
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« Reply #3235 on: February 26, 2022, 02:24:35 PM »


Already today there was a report that Ukrainian soldiers had killed a whole bunch of Chechens. Not surprising as Kadyrov’s thugs are more of a glorified police force than an army, so they should be no match for the Ukrainians.
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« Reply #3236 on: February 26, 2022, 02:28:02 PM »

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« Reply #3237 on: February 26, 2022, 02:29:16 PM »

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I take back what I said about Biden, finally a measure with teeth, even if they are baby teeth.
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« Reply #3238 on: February 26, 2022, 02:29:55 PM »

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Took you long enough Olaf.
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« Reply #3239 on: February 26, 2022, 02:30:59 PM »

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About damn time.
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« Reply #3240 on: February 26, 2022, 02:36:34 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2022, 02:43:11 PM by Storr »

A glimpse of what the Kremlin is reporting to the Russian people:


Edit: I watched a documentary on the first Chechen War last night, and it's been a worry for me the past few days that stiff Ukrainian resistance will convince the military that they have to go "all in" and pull a Grozny. Fortunately, (so far anyway) the Russians generally seem to be consciously avoiding using Chechnya like levels of force.
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« Reply #3241 on: February 26, 2022, 02:38:05 PM »

Ukraine has killed off the Chechen general

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« Reply #3242 on: February 26, 2022, 02:39:37 PM »


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« Reply #3243 on: February 26, 2022, 02:40:03 PM »

Ukraine has killed off the Chechen general


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« Reply #3244 on: February 26, 2022, 02:40:17 PM »

Fwiw, if I was a younger man and had an ounce of experience and usefulness I would go to Ukraine if I could.
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« Reply #3245 on: February 26, 2022, 02:41:23 PM »


Already today there was a report that Ukrainian soldiers had killed a whole bunch of Chechens. Not surprising as Kadyrov’s thugs are more of a glorified police force than an army, so they should be no match for the Ukrainians.
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« Reply #3246 on: February 26, 2022, 02:41:58 PM »



Jesus I hope this is bluster
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« Reply #3247 on: February 26, 2022, 02:43:23 PM »

It seems that EU ministers will meet tomorrow to work out SWIFT sanctions.  It sounds like the fact that they have to work out details then these sanctions will be targeted and not comprehensive.  Still, it could very be very impactful or very nominal.  The details of these sanctions will determine how the financial markets will react.
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« Reply #3248 on: February 26, 2022, 02:44:20 PM »

Ukraine has killed off the Chechen general


God is great!
Let’s hope they keep it up
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« Reply #3249 on: February 26, 2022, 02:44:27 PM »


Already today there was a report that Ukrainian soldiers had killed a whole bunch of Chechens. Not surprising as Kadyrov’s thugs are more of a glorified police force than an army, so they should be no match for the Ukrainians.

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