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« Reply #10200 on: April 19, 2022, 08:51:31 AM »



 "pro Ukraine" sir Woodbury yet again post his umpteenth post in a role highlighting what sparse Russian progress their news agency's tender report.

Pro tip. If you want people to believe you, don't go out of your way to prove yourself to be a lying Craven troll poster of the highest order For years beforehand.
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« Reply #10201 on: April 19, 2022, 08:52:49 AM »

SirWoodbury is a Russian fetishist, he will pretend not to be but he is. He should stay on here because he provides news of Russian victories which more pro Ukraine users may ignore, but keep that in mind.

He doesn’t want Putin to win so much as for Biden, the EU, and Zelensky to lose.

He is awful that way.
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« Reply #10202 on: April 19, 2022, 09:03:26 AM »

Russians closing in on Zarichne and Tors'ke means that the Ukrainian pocket near the Borova area is getting thinner

Source: https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/18-april-russian-troops-already-in-zarichne


 Must be  Tough for you to post these  Updates typing with one hand.
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« Reply #10203 on: April 19, 2022, 09:16:16 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2022, 09:19:30 AM by Omega21 »

The Russians have now reportedly entered & are fighting for Torske, putting Ukrainians under threat of encirclement.

As for Woodbury, I don't know how he privately feels about the conflict, but his posts here are most definitely useful.

The wast majority of us here support Ukraine, so it has kind of turned into a bubble celebrating every decapitated T-72 and not posting any UA losses, which is terrible if we want an objective view of the battlefield.

This is why I've switched to almost only posting Russian gains. I certainly don't like them gaining a foot beyond Crimea (that's a done deal IMO), but just ignoring it won't change the situation on the ground.

We are not in a trench in Donbas & our "moral" doesn't really matter.

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« Reply #10204 on: April 19, 2022, 09:27:20 AM »

Some dope art.

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« Reply #10205 on: April 19, 2022, 09:29:26 AM »

Moska's sister ship.

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« Reply #10206 on: April 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AM »

Russians wasting no time restarting "the education" of Mariupol's youth.



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« Reply #10207 on: April 19, 2022, 09:37:56 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2022, 09:47:08 AM by Storr »

Russians wasting no time restarting "the education" of Mariupol's youth.





Or in having fake "votes". I wonder who "authorized" the people making decisions.  

The former Rozivka Raion (Ukraine reorganized local administrative divisions in 2020) has only 8,000 residents. It is bordered by Donetsk Oblast on three sides, so I assume the lame excuse rationale is going to be that it's actually part of the Donbass cruely separated from its brethren by artificial lines on a map. 

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« Reply #10208 on: April 19, 2022, 09:38:41 AM »

Serious, still unconfirmed reports that Russia has dropped a huge bomb on Azovstal. The explosion was reportedly heard 100 km away.

Could be a TU-22 sortie with FAB-5000 or FAB-3000 bombs (5000kg/3000kg).

Some people are saying it could be a FOAB, but I personally doubt it, as it is the most potent conventional explosive known to man (claimed 4x stronger than the US MOAB), and can even substitute small nukes.
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« Reply #10209 on: April 19, 2022, 10:49:06 AM »

Some dope art.



Ukraine needs to launch an NFT collection like this, 10,000 would instantly sell out at 0.3 ETH.
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« Reply #10210 on: April 19, 2022, 11:19:02 AM »

SirWoodbury is a Russian fetishist, he will pretend not to be but he is. He should stay on here because he provides news of Russian victories which more pro Ukraine users may ignore, but keep that in mind.

He doesn’t want Putin to win so much as for Biden, the EU, and Zelensky to lose.

He is awful that way.
No, he really does want Putin to win.
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« Reply #10211 on: April 19, 2022, 11:21:23 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2022, 12:14:32 PM by Storr »

Updates on military movements have gone quiet in the past few hours. While we wait, have a 70s Soviet propaganda illustration probably from a children's book tying Jewish people/Israel with Ukrainian nationalism. Ironically, it makes both nationalists and zionists look pretty cool. The flag on the left says "Anti Soviet" and the flag on the right says "Anti Communism".

source: https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1393970377186029574?s=20&t=XImIk0JgqUccBtWz-psNsQ

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« Reply #10212 on: April 19, 2022, 11:34:02 AM »

Updates on military movements have gone quiet in the past few hours. While we wait, have a 70s Soviet propaganda illustration probably from a children's book tying Jewish people/Israel with Ukrainian nationalism. Ironically, it makes both nationalists and zionists look pretty cool. The flag on the left says "Anti Soviet" and the flag on the left says "Anti Communism".



Commies threatening us with a good time.
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« Reply #10213 on: April 19, 2022, 11:49:36 AM »

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« Reply #10214 on: April 19, 2022, 12:11:05 PM »

It's better than nothing, I suppose.

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« Reply #10215 on: April 19, 2022, 12:12:38 PM »


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« Reply #10216 on: April 19, 2022, 12:29:39 PM »

I... am happy with something Rutte does?

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« Reply #10217 on: April 19, 2022, 12:31:38 PM »

Based self depricating NATO:



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« Reply #10218 on: April 19, 2022, 12:42:48 PM »

Based self depricating NATO:





Didn't Germany invent a comedy robot?
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« Reply #10219 on: April 19, 2022, 12:44:48 PM »

I... am happy with something Rutte does?



Join the club. I praised Duda recently.
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« Reply #10220 on: April 19, 2022, 01:01:33 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2022, 01:45:33 PM by Storr »

Eventually the truth comes out when soldiers come home.

It wasn't just the news media (as Reagan era Conservatives liked to claim) that convinced the American public that Vietnam wasn't the tremendous success presented by the government and military. It was also the soldiers returning home, who shared their experiences and the reality in Vietnam or even joined the anti-war movement.

Obviously the situation is different with the government controlled press in authoritarian Russia. It is impossible to convince your average Russian the war is wrong or immoral (brother nation, NATO aggression, protecting Donbass, etc.). But, it is possible to convince them the war isn't winnable or worth the cost. It's hard to hide the magnitude of casualties when they're your son.

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« Reply #10221 on: April 19, 2022, 01:14:52 PM »


Looks like we have a fog of war situation because Ukraine is saying Russia’s offensive has been pushed back to their initial boarders in direct contradiction to the reports WB and Omega posted
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« Reply #10222 on: April 19, 2022, 01:22:37 PM »


Looks like we have a fog of war situation because Ukraine is saying Russia’s offensive has been pushed back to their initial boarders in direct contradiction to the reports WB and Omega posted

This is a different area, so no contradictions so far.

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« Reply #10223 on: April 19, 2022, 01:36:59 PM »


Looks like we have a fog of war situation because Ukraine is saying Russia’s offensive has been pushed back to their initial boarders in direct contradiction to the reports WB and Omega posted

This is a different area, so no contradictions so far.


The seizing of Kreminna itself isn’t a contradiction but the other links claiming they made a deep push west and are close to encircling Ukraine around Izium is 
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« Reply #10224 on: April 19, 2022, 01:38:03 PM »

"After some time, Grudinin's mother received a call on a mobile phone from a man who introduced himself as Pavel Vakula - that is the name of the deputy commander of the Moskva cruiser, the media reported. The mother of another conscript, Irina Shkrebets, previously told reporters that one of the Moskva commanders is called Pavel Borisovich Vakula.

Vakula reported that Sergei Grudinin was missing. Some time later, a man called, also introducing himself as a sailor commander, and informed Tamara Grudinina about the death of his son.

“[The commander] led them out in a chain, the chain broke, and your son remained on the ship,” she retells what she heard. “In general, he sank along with the ship.”"

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