The Democratic Governors Association is reportedly going to sit out the Florida race next year
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« on: November 05, 2021, 09:26:38 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2021, 09:29:21 AM »

Smart. They should focus on actual winnable races and defending their vulnerable seats.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2021, 09:30:15 AM »

Yep Florida is a waste of time.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2021, 09:37:05 AM »

Giving up on Florida is a bad long-term strategy, but I would agree that it’s not winnable in 2022.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2021, 10:16:20 AM »

That's rather depressing, since DeSantis, unless defeated in 2022, will become President in the future. However, I don't think this race is winnable. The environment is just too red, and the state Democratic Party has been so incompetent for so long. What a depraved nation and state.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2021, 10:19:13 AM »

Yeah, they need to defend their own seats, not try to win unwinnable race
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2021, 10:23:03 AM »

FL is not worth D time and money. DeSantis is too strong. A chance does exist he will be defeated, but it's too small to justify the expenditure and diversion of resources. And god knows how the FL Dems would boggle an attempt to defeat him anyway...
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2021, 10:26:35 AM »

Probably better that they will be throwing money at people like Sisolak, Evers, Kelly, etc who will be far less likely to benefit from "fundraging" than whoever the candidate against DeSantis is.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2021, 02:23:05 PM »

Annoying that we have to essentially concede this race, but the only real chance for Democrats is a complete self-immolation by DeSantis, in which case it probably won’t really matter how much money we throw at the race.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2021, 02:23:47 PM »

I mean Desantis is controversial enough to get #resistance boomers to donate to Freid or Crist.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2021, 03:06:05 PM »

Giving up on Florida is a bad long-term strategy, but I would agree that it’s not winnable in 2022.
Are you sure? FL is likely only going to get worse for Dems.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2021, 03:10:36 PM »

Giving up on Florida is a bad long-term strategy, but I would agree that it’s not winnable in 2022.

I agree. Still very frustarting that DeathSantis apparently isn't paying any price for his incompetence.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2021, 03:46:07 PM »

Giving up on Florida is a bad long-term strategy, but I would agree that it’s not winnable in 2022.

I agree. Still very frustarting that DeathSantis apparently isn't paying any price for his incompetence.

Às I said many times, DeSantis, Rubio and Debbie Wasserman Schultz were there during Surfside,Demings and Crist disappeared, we haven't seen much of Crist, he is another Retread like TMac
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2021, 04:50:45 PM »

That is an insanely stupid decision to make a full year out.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2021, 05:01:15 PM »

What people seem to think Florida is:


Seriously, the fact that they've largely written off a Trump +3 state even while the GOP won a Biden +10 state and came close in Biden +16 one is a huge part of why the Democrats think the playing field is so tilted against them when it's really not. They're just a bunch of whiners.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2021, 06:03:20 PM »

What people seem to think Florida is:


Seriously, the fact that they've largely written off a Trump +3 state even while the GOP won a Biden +10 state and came close in Biden +16 one is a huge part of why the Democrats think the playing field is so tilted against them when it's really not. They're just a bunch of whiners.
Ds have a self-defeating streak that kills them time and time again.
This is a winnable race in theory. FL is winnable for Ds. Ds can prevail in FL.
It's just not worth investing too much in Florida's gubernatorial race in 2022. Whoever runs against DeSantis will have eneough money to basically contest the race. I don't think DeSantis will get a landslide, FL is too polarized for that. But either way he is strongly favored. I'd rather we invest money in places like MI and PA.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2021, 06:38:55 PM »

What people seem to think Florida is:


Seriously, the fact that they've largely written off a Trump +3 state even while the GOP won a Biden +10 state and came close in Biden +16 one is a huge part of why the Democrats think the playing field is so tilted against them when it's really not. They're just a bunch of whiners.

Lol Rubio is up by 19 and Crist is down by 12, it's OVER
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2021, 06:49:16 PM »

Don’t give up Florida entirely, but there’s no way DeSantis doesn’t win re-election
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2021, 01:26:49 AM »

The raw vote margins, people. Florida is impossible without reaching ridiculous percentages (beyond Clinton 2016) in the urban counties. The raw vote margins in the central part of the state are just so huge now.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2021, 05:05:38 AM »

Yeah as others said raising money won’t be an issue for whoever runs against him.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2021, 05:17:16 AM »

Actually we have a better chance in OH, voters arent supportive of DeWine continued lockdowns and he might lose the primary and Vance and Mandel are still tied on Remyan website at 38, they're not leading by 10 like DeSantis is, because Crist is a retread like TMac
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2021, 05:20:15 AM »

This is a pretty good move, honestly (this state is not winnable for them, especially in 2022, and it’s only going to get more challenging for them for the foreseeable future). I also think it’s only a matter of time before they concede FL in favor of TX.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2021, 06:19:33 AM »

Sad but fair
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2021, 10:31:34 AM »

The raw vote margins, people. Florida is impossible without reaching ridiculous percentages (beyond Clinton 2016) in the urban counties. The raw vote margins in the central part of the state are just so huge now.

Clinton’s Miami Dade margin in 2016 is not replicable by another Democrat.  That was almost solely attributed to much of the Cuban Republican establishment supporting Clinton due to Trump’s treatment of Rubio in the primary.  The best Dems can hope for is something like Obama’s 2008 numbers there (62%) and that is not enough to win given the Republican margins in the panhandle and exurbs (see Hernando, Pasco, Volusia, Polk, and Citris counties) in the central part of the state now.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2021, 12:22:47 PM »

Giving up on Florida is a bad long-term strategy, but I would agree that it’s not winnable in 2022.

I agree. Still very frustarting that DeathSantis apparently isn't paying any price for his incompetence.

He's not incompetent.  He disagrees with the Democrats on COVID-19.  Florida has maintained far more normal living and it's a falsehood to say that Florida's COVID-19 death rate is abnormally high.  Florida has a lower death rate than NY and NJ per capita, despite being a state with a high percentage of persons 65 and over. 

DeSantis will be reelected because he did not permit the abnormalizing of daily life to the extent that, say, Phil Murphy did.  Phil Murphy should have turned out the death rate numbers Ron DeSantis did; it would have been a significant improvement.  Andrew Cuomo, America's Governor (until he wasn't) should have turned out DeSantis numbers.  Now I'm not lambasting those two for their virus numbers.  The virus came, it penetrated masks, and a lot of the numbers have to do with the urban vs. rural makeup of a state.  DeSantis did the right thing by families; he did not require that they be decimated by authoritarian measures.  The criticisms he receives are talking points that would only be true if DeSantis were at the top of the list in negaitve COVID-19 numbers.
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