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Alben Barkley
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« on: October 28, 2021, 11:19:59 PM »

Toss-up to Lean R at this point.

Yes, 48 hours ago I was mocking anyone who thought Youngkin could win. Take this as an apology and full retraction.

I certainly think this is an outlier and don't expect Youngkin to win by THIS much. But if you put a gun to my head now and asked me to predict the most likely result, it would probably be a narrow Youngkin victory. Between this and other polls that have come out lately, the momentum is CLEARLY on Youngkin's side. Even if the polls are off about as much as 2017, even if their likely voter screens are significantly miscalculated as I suspect, this will be a VERY close election and tough win for McAuliffe at best. And my gut now tells me Youngkin is in fact slightly more likely to win. I mean, even the RV numbers here still had Youngkin up 1.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2021, 11:32:02 PM »

ngl, whether McAuliffe wins by 1 or loses by 1, it's not really going to make me feel a whole different about 2022.

For about as long as this forum has existed, we've been treated to one administration after another who were put into power and then subsequently stripped of power across the country by an electorate that can't or won't make up its mind about what it wants. It would be shocking to me if that wasn't happening again now. It's just what we do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You agree with me that this is not like KY or LA 2019 or MD 2018 right?

its literally going to be a gop sweep up and down the state ballot. That is what makes it different.

In a more polarized voting era, it makes me far less optimistic for VA Dems.

In 2019 KY and LA, we had a uniquely charismatic and well-established Democrat running against Republicans with little charisma or broad appeal (and in the case of KY, the R was downright despised). Even though the states were strongly pro-Trump and Republican, they also were voting for the governor's office in particular based more on the personalities of the actual candidates than nationalized politics (for what may well prove to be one of the last times). But in this case, a fairly popular ex-governor of a pretty blue state who in theory should have been easily the strongest candidate still might lose because of the D attached to his name and because the perfect storm of conditions (see: Loudoun County disaster going on right now, Biden's free falling approval ratings, Youngkin being fairly decent as far as R candidates go) might make it possible for him to lose.

So yeah, I'd agree that if McAuliffe loses, he's likely to drag down the rest of his party in a way that Bevin and Rispone did not. Because people won't really be voting based on their feelings towards the gubernatorial candidates alone, but rather how they feel about the political parties and the ideas they represent (as they perceive them at least) at large. Ironically, Obama trying to "help" T-Mac by campaigning for him and subsequently making gaffes about the Loudoun County disaster that led to direct, angry pushback from the parents of the victim might well have sunk T-Mac in the end. Especially if the race comes down to the wire.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2021, 11:32:35 PM »


You do realize Fox polls have a quite good reputation, regardless of the reputation of Fox News as a whole?
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