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« on: October 27, 2021, 09:06:38 AM »

What kind of food would be permitted or allowed by you ideally?

For example, someone who supports abortion up to birth would be OK if with meat being eaten in any so long as it wasn't completely human.

Someone who wants all abortion and contraception banned would probably want all non-plant food to be illegal but be on the fence about mushrooms.

Someone who was solidly but reasonably pro-life would be OK with eggs and milk and MAYBE insect analogs but no poultry, meat, or even sea food.

A moderate pro-choicer might be OK with chicken and ADULT beef, but no pork or veal.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 01:23:33 PM »

That's basically just what I am now.

I am enthusiastically pro-choice and love a good steak.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 01:42:18 PM »

That's basically just what I am now.

I am enthusiastically pro-choice and love a good steak.

The only rational position.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 11:01:27 PM »

Mapping strict pro-life views onto complete veganism seems like a failure to compare like with like to me. Milk can be extracted from living beings pretty much indefinitely, and most chicken eggs are not even fertilized.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2021, 11:12:11 PM »

Firmly pro-life here, I'm swallowing beef as I was typing this post.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2021, 11:25:05 PM »

This is an extraordinarily dumb premise, but I guess I fit it well enough given that I'm a pescetarian with very conflicted feelings about abortion.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2021, 12:55:16 AM »

I guess I'm "consistent" in that I'm pro-choice and think veganism as a moral imperative is dumb, but these two things just have nothing to do with each other. It's like nobody can argue an issue on its own merits anymore and can only play "gotcha" and try to spot alleged inconsistencies with other issues.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2021, 04:59:06 AM »

I am a "abortion is bad but is a necessary evil and should be safe, legal, and rare" type of pro-choice, and vegtarian. I'm not vegan, because meat requires killing while for example dairy does not, therefore dairy can theoreically be done ethically (though unfortunately it often isn't today in factory farms) while meat can't (yet, until we master lab-grown meat). I also do eat eggs, because they are almost always unfertilized, therefore there is no death happening.

So I guess I'm consistent? I'm not totally sure the issue is comparable, though. A much better comparison is abortion and capital punishment.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2021, 06:48:39 AM »

Pro-abortion vegetarian, but organism is the morally correct position
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2021, 10:40:38 AM »

A much better comparison is abortion and capital punishment.

Complete agreement here - being "pro-life" *and also* pro-death penalty has always been a massive "red flag" for me. With very, very few exceptions.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2021, 11:07:38 AM »

So I guess I'm consistent? I'm not totally sure the issue is comparable, though. A much better comparison is abortion and capital punishment.

That's still a massive reach to me. A pro lifer could just as easily say "you're fine with killing an innocent baby but don't want to kill murderers". The issue is that I don't count an unborn baby as a person until it's actually born and pro lifers do, in either case your position on that has nothing to do with your position on the death penalty. Again, let's just argue the merits of issues and not just constantly look for alleged "double standards".
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2021, 07:24:17 PM »

So I guess I'm consistent? I'm not totally sure the issue is comparable, though. A much better comparison is abortion and capital punishment.

That's still a massive reach to me. A pro lifer could just as easily say "you're fine with killing an innocent baby but don't want to kill murderers". The issue is that I don't count an unborn baby as a person until it's actually born and pro lifers do, in either case your position on that has nothing to do with your position on the death penalty. Again, let's just argue the merits of issues and not just constantly look for alleged "double standards".
Life is complicated. Politics is complicated. "Double standards" is in itself a subjective concept. What might be a double standard to one person might not be to another.
Not that double standard is an entirely meaningless concept in politics, but who are we to judge? Shouldn't we display some humility?
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2021, 08:58:16 PM »

I support legal abortion up until a certain point and I oppose veal. I am not a vegetarian but I am also very opposed to cruelty in general.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2021, 08:51:32 AM »

I believe abortion is morally wrong and I have basically stopped eating land animals' meat, although I do not identify as "pro-life" or "pescetarian" or anything like that because those expressions sound stupid to me. Then again, the premise of this thread is also very stupid.
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