As someone who voted for Obama and against Biden, it’s clear Biden is the better president

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Obama was merely terrible and mildly tyrannical.

Biden on the other hand, is the worst president we’ve had since Jimmy Carter. This demagogue has zero redeeming qualities.

I was born in 86 and I would rank presidents in my lifetime as follows:

Trump
Clinton
Biden
Obama
Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

I was born after the 86 amnesty so Reagan isn't last by default.

May I ask, what is it about Trump that you think is so great? I'm just curious.

He’s not great. Every president in my lifetime has been poor. He’s just the least internationalist, and opposed free trade, immigration, and multilateral foreign policy - which are blights on the American worker imo.

The last good president was probably Ford.

Why do you think any internationalism is bad? A lot of problems are global and can only be solved in a global context with cooperation. Be it climate change, terrorism, migration streams, large companies avoiding taxes etc. It doesn't work without cooperation and agreements between nations. Nobody is sitting on an isolated island where the rest doesn't matter.

All of this is true, especially the latter part which I think a lot of opponents of globalization overlook, which Hungary and Ireland are refusing to do even though it would mitigate some of globalization's negative effects. And it's going to take international pressure to curb pollution in Asia, where it is highest.

I don't view internationalization as a left-right issue. I also think it's wrong to believe we can erase all borders and let domestic industry die while people in other countries work for fifty cents an hour. Trade works, but like any deal it only works if all parties play by the same rules and not manipulate the system to other countries' disadvantage. China is certainly not going to do so on its own.

[Pres Mike]

Concerning Afghanistan I’m actually going to defend Obama here. Pulling out before Bin Laden was dead would have resulted in a landslide defeat in 2012

Pulling out when ISIS controlled half of Iraq would not have been smart

There wasn’t any point on Obama’s presidency that an afghan withdrawal was possible, electorally or for security reasons

By 2020, Americans had stopped caring about Afghanistan and no major terror network currently poses a theart. Hence both Trump and Biden being able to discuss and ultimately withdraw 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Concerning Afghanistan I’m actually going to defend Obama here. Pulling out before Bin Laden was dead would have resulted in a landslide defeat in 2012

Pulling out when ISIS controlled half of Iraq would not have been smart

There wasn’t any point on Obama’s presidency that an afghan withdrawal was possible, electorally or for security reasons

By 2020, Americans had stopped caring about Afghanistan and no major terror network currently poses a theart. Hence both Trump and Biden being able to discuss and ultimately withdraw 

Biden has historically made some rather foolish policy approaches when it comes to foreign policy.

I think about his proposal to split the country in three and what that would have meant during the ISIS period.

[Pres Mike]

Concerning Afghanistan I’m actually going to defend Obama here. Pulling out before Bin Laden was dead would have resulted in a landslide defeat in 2012

Pulling out when ISIS controlled half of Iraq would not have been smart

There wasn’t any point on Obama’s presidency that an afghan withdrawal was possible, electorally or for security reasons

By 2020, Americans had stopped caring about Afghanistan and no major terror network currently poses a theart. Hence both Trump and Biden being able to discuss and ultimately withdraw 

Biden has historically made some rather foolish policy approaches when it comes to foreign policy.

I think about his proposal to split the country in three and what that would have meant during the ISIS period.

Biden never proposed dividing Iraq into three separate countries. He proposed dividing it into three autonomous zones which could make certain laws. There would still be shared national defense and sharing of oil revenue. Similar to what Bosnia or Indonesia have.

Regardless it’s a horrible idea that would inevitably result in ethnic cleansing, mass refugees and tensions that results in open war.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Obama was merely terrible and mildly tyrannical.

Biden on the other hand, is the worst president we’ve had since Jimmy Carter. This demagogue has zero redeeming qualities.

People said this about Obama.  I thought it was hyperbole.  It's true about Biden.  He combines the authoritarian impulses of Woodrow Wilson (with his own Attorney General Palmer to boot) with the feebleness and corruption of Warren Harding.

If his VP wasn't a blithering incompetent with a nervous laugh and the two (2) others next in line to succession in their eighties (Nancy Pelosi and Pat Leahy, 3 and 4 respectively) there would be a huge clamor for his resignation on grounds of incompetence.  What is frightening to so many of the American people is the utter lack of competence in the line of succession.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I prefer Biden to Obama, but I would vote against either. 

I certainly don't, simply because I believe that Biden is senile and not up to the job.  He has shown absolutely no degree of moderation when moderation was needed. 

It's clear that Biden never intended to be a "unifier" or a "healer".  His intention was to ram through the Leftist Agenda, regardless of public opposition to it.  He's made no efforts toward consensus (although the GOP is, admittedly, reaping what it had sown back in Obama's Administration).  There are Presidents I've liked and Presidents I've disliked, but our present President is America's Marshal Petain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Concerning Afghanistan I’m actually going to defend Obama here. Pulling out before Bin Laden was dead would have resulted in a landslide defeat in 2012

Pulling out when ISIS controlled half of Iraq would not have been smart

There wasn’t any point on Obama’s presidency that an afghan withdrawal was possible, electorally or for security reasons

By 2020, Americans had stopped caring about Afghanistan and no major terror network currently poses a theart. Hence both Trump and Biden being able to discuss and ultimately withdraw 

Biden has historically made some rather foolish policy approaches when it comes to foreign policy.

I think about his proposal to split the country in three and what that would have meant during the ISIS period.

Biden never proposed dividing Iraq into three separate countries. He proposed dividing it into three autonomous zones which could make certain laws. There would still be shared national defense and sharing of oil revenue. Similar to what Bosnia or Indonesia have.

Regardless it’s a horrible idea that would inevitably result in ethnic cleansing, mass refugees and tensions that results in open war.

Yea that is what I was misremembering. Its also hilarious that his solution to correct for "post WWI mistakes" was more "post WWI" style nationalistic boundaries and the risk for cleansing/refugees that comes with that.

[Calthrina950]

I prefer Biden to Obama, but I would vote against either. 

I certainly don't, simply because I believe that Biden is senile and not up to the job.  He has shown absolutely no degree of moderation when moderation was needed. 

It's clear that Biden never intended to be a "unifier" or a "healer".  His intention was to ram through the Leftist Agenda, regardless of public opposition to it.  He's made no efforts toward consensus (although the GOP is, admittedly, reaping what it had sown back in Obama's Administration).  There are Presidents I've liked and Presidents I've disliked, but our present President is America's Marshal Petain.

This would imply that you consider Biden to be the worst President in your lifetime, and I believe you've said as much elsewhere.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This author doesn't realize D's passed ACA I see Obama, and the Ds could have DC Statehood but Biden as Veeo td Obama not to get rid of Filibuster in 2009/ as Veep and Prez of The Senate , D's could of at any time passed Immigration reform or DC Statehood before 2011 during Obama admin and we had 59 seats, but just like Anita Hill when Biden pushed a floor vote on Clarence Thomas Biden rejected Filibustering Thomas and he rejected Filibuster reform for DC Statehood

Biden without VR will like have a Speaker McCarthy and a Man Leader Schumer in 2023


304 map can protect the S but Gerrymandering will be hard for D's to crack in H and it's all his fault, illegals crossing border, Biden thought that Covid will be over in July and he can get amnesty, it didn't happen that way

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why do you think any internationalism is bad? A lot of problems are global and can only be solved in a global context with cooperation. Be it climate change, terrorism, migration streams, large companies avoiding taxes etc. It doesn't work without cooperation and agreements between nations. Nobody is sitting on an isolated island where the rest doesn't matter.

Honest response - I view a country as a family. I wouldn’t wish ill on anybody, but the needs and even wants of one’s country are paramount, and I don’t think said needs and wants for America are closely aligned with other countries. For example - the UK leaving the EU was terrible for the EU, but will benefit the US as it weakens the EU, the United States’ largest economic rival outside of China.

The United States, as it has the largest military, largest nuclear stockpile, reserve currency, and strongest economy operates as a virtual monopsony. So a bully pulpit is derived from this status. Becoming the leading partner in a coalition, or even worse one of many equal partners, weakens America’s leverage.

Sure , but in that case families need friends as well.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden was Veep to Obama not the other way around and D's had a Supermajority that passed Obamacare and Obama phones

Biden will become great when Ds finally pass DC Statehood when we win WI, PA, MO, GA and OH Blue collar make Senators that can beat Walker, Johnson, Grietans, Mandela, and Parnell

Cross out Demings and Beasley McCrory and Rubio are mainstream enough to win as I suspected with McCrory already


It doesn't really matter about Biden Approvals, that matters only for Prez and we already lead in FL if a Prez  party had to be at 5o we won Cali in a Landslide and tied in VA


Trump was under 50% because he is right now an unindicted criminal, Biden has Reade and Hunter, but c'mon Biden can't be impeached for another person he only can be impeached for his own crimes, if he does get impeached it has no legal grounds and will get Acquitted in Senate easily

We lead 44(37 on GCB and you see Hassan is within 3 of SUNUNU at 33% a wave hasn't begun but it's a 50/50 chance that Ryan and Lucas Kunce which Kander almost won can win and 45% that Beasley and Demings win