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« on: October 10, 2021, 10:51:19 AM »

They are even redder than the WOW counties
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 05:54:03 PM »

To be fair, they are trending leftward. And not all of them are red; it kind of depends on what you define as suburbs. The inner suburbs that are near Cincinnati proper are probably Democratic-leaning at this point, if they weren't already. They're probably red (but trending leftward) becuase they are rich and white, historically a prime demographic for the GOP, and to a lesser extent, still one today (yes, they're trending leftward, but to attribute only them to the leftward shift in the Trump years is ignoring demographic diversification, which plays a big role in suburbs shifting leftward).
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 06:16:08 PM »

To be fair, they are trending leftward. And not all of them are red; it kind of depends on what you define as suburbs. The inner suburbs that are near Cincinnati proper are probably Democratic-leaning at this point, if they weren't already. They're probably red (but trending leftward) becuase they are rich and white, historically a prime demographic for the GOP, and to a lesser extent, still one today (yes, they're trending leftward, but to attribute only them to the leftward shift in the Trump years is ignoring demographic diversification, which plays a big role in suburbs shifting leftward).
I was talking about Butler, Warren, and Clermont counties
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 06:25:23 PM »

To be fair, they are trending leftward. And not all of them are red; it kind of depends on what you define as suburbs. The inner suburbs that are near Cincinnati proper are probably Democratic-leaning at this point, if they weren't already. They're probably red (but trending leftward) becuase they are rich and white, historically a prime demographic for the GOP, and to a lesser extent, still one today (yes, they're trending leftward, but to attribute only them to the leftward shift in the Trump years is ignoring demographic diversification, which plays a big role in suburbs shifting leftward).
I was talking about Butler, Warren, and Clermont counties

It's worth noting that those three counties were all in George Wallace's top five in the state. The ancestral conservatism of the region is very powerful, and they have yet to diversify or undergo major economic upheaval.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2021, 11:43:40 AM »

The historical profile of the Cincinnati suburbs is pretty similar to WOW actually--an older industrial city with a lot of Germans, and a lot of German catholics, plus particularly nasty and polarized white flight. Cincinnati is also a step more conservative than Milwaukee however because of closer cultural ties to the South and to "Butternut Ohio," which gives it an even more conservative bent compared to metro Milwaukee, where most internal migration historically was of Yankees.

Cincinnati is also a fairly parochial place without a ton of in-migration or growth (but without the bottom falling out either) and that means it's somewhat "dealigned" from usual electoral patterns.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2021, 12:27:34 PM »

To be fair, they are trending leftward. And not all of them are red; it kind of depends on what you define as suburbs. The inner suburbs that are near Cincinnati proper are probably Democratic-leaning at this point, if they weren't already. They're probably red (but trending leftward) becuase they are rich and white, historically a prime demographic for the GOP, and to a lesser extent, still one today (yes, they're trending leftward, but to attribute only them to the leftward shift in the Trump years is ignoring demographic diversification, which plays a big role in suburbs shifting leftward).
I was talking about Butler, Warren, and Clermont counties

It's worth noting that those three counties were all in George Wallace's top five in the state. The ancestral conservatism of the region is very powerful, and they have yet to diversify or undergo major economic upheaval.

I would have thought that suburbs outside the south would've backed Nixon, not Wallace, in 1968. I mean, of course Wallace didn't win any of these counties, but I thought these types of counties probably wouldn't give Wallace much more than his national percentage of the vote, since I imagine most conservatives would support the more moderate, but still "law and order" candidate, Nixon. Maybe Wallace's strong performance here has to do with these counties being more southern than much of Ohio, geographically speaking, since areas that were further south and closer to the Ohio were generally more southern, culturally, economically and politically, which might explain why Wallace did better in South Ohio than in North Ohio.
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