Can a man get pregnant

[HillGoose]

maybe but can a man get pergert or gregnant or pregonate or pregananant?

(my serious answer to this question is yes because i support the trans ppl)

[Mr. Smith]

In theory, sure...but it would be dangerous at worst, more likely, it lasts as long as all those laboratory elements like Californium.

Either way, not practical or useful and not ethical.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

maybe but can a man get pergert or gregnant or pregonate or pregananant?

(my serious answer to this question is yes because i support the trans ppl)

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

[Middle-aged Europe]

Yes.

[DavidB.]

No (sane, literally normal)

[Green Line]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

[Green Line]

The definition of a racist is someone who thinks a person is inferior because of their race. The definition of a transphobe is someone who thinks a trans person is not the gender they say they are.

If racism requires a belief in inferiority why doesn't transphobia similarly require a belief in inferiority? One can find it absurd to claim that there's nothing gay about a man sucking his girlfriends lady penis without believing transpeople are inferior.

Racism no longer requires a belief in inferiority though in our modern discourse.  Racism literally just means acknowledging race in a way that makes someone feel uncomfortable or voting for a political party.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

[patzer]

Asking this question is like asking "do the native people of sub-Saharan Africa have black skin"

To which the answer is surely an obvious yes- except for the fact that albinos exist.

Same thing here. In general, women can get pregnant and men cannot, of course. Like many general rules, the rare exceptions can exist. Even excluding trans people it would not at all surprise me if there are some intersex individuals in this category too.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

Actually there's scientific evidence for there being no significant sexual dimorphism in brains: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33621637/

[Horus]

Males cannot get pregnant. Not sure about men. (Moderate hero option)

[Horus]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

What does it mean for your mind or soul to be a gender? This is what I just don't get. My mind and soul aren't male/man or female/woman, my body just happens to be male and I just happen to be a man.

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

[If my soul was made of stone]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

What does it mean for your mind or soul to be a gender? This is what I just don't get. My mind and soul aren't male/man or female/woman, my body just happens to be male and I just happen to be a man.

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

Gender dysphoria is the experience of my body telling me that it doesn't want to be a man's body. My limbs are too long and feel physically stretched out, my hips feel like something's pushing them inwards, my genitalia feel like a profane and alien growth, et cetera. I identify with that physicality much more than I do my own. I could never see my body as "just happen[ing] to be male" or my spirit as such because of this experience. You don't understand simply because you don't have this experience, but that doesn't mean that you have to be hostile to those who do.

[Horus]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

What does it mean for your mind or soul to be a gender? This is what I just don't get. My mind and soul aren't male/man or female/woman, my body just happens to be male and I just happen to be a man.

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

Gender dysphoria is the experience of my body telling me that it doesn't want to be a man's body. My limbs are too long and feel physically stretched out, my hips feel like something's pushing them inwards, my genitalia feel like a profane and alien growth, et cetera. I identify with that physicality much more than I do my own. I could never see my body as "just happen[ing] to be male" or my spirit as such because of this experience. You don't understand simply because you don't have this experience, but that doesn't mean that you have to be hostile to those who do.

I'm not being hostile at all. And while this helps me understand the trans experience to an extent, it still does not even sightly answer my question so I will pose it again.

What does it mean to be a man or a woman?

[If my soul was made of stone]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

Trans men's brains resemble cis men's brains more than cis women's brains(and vice versa). https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/
It just baffles me that someone would think that someones body is more important to who someone is than their mind, their soul. It is usually actively distressing for trans people to be seen as their birth sex, and we don't actually gain anything by defining the categories of "man" and "woman" entirely based on the body. If you put a lions mind in a humans body, you don't get a human; you get a very confused and upset lion.

What does it mean for your mind or soul to be a gender? This is what I just don't get. My mind and soul aren't male/man or female/woman, my body just happens to be male and I just happen to be a man.

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

Gender dysphoria is the experience of my body telling me that it doesn't want to be a man's body. My limbs are too long and feel physically stretched out, my hips feel like something's pushing them inwards, my genitalia feel like a profane and alien growth, et cetera. I identify with that physicality much more than I do my own. I could never see my body as "just happen[ing] to be male" or my spirit as such because of this experience. You don't understand simply because you don't have this experience, but that doesn't mean that you have to be hostile to those who do.

I'm not being hostile at all. And while this helps me understand the trans experience to an extent, it still does not even sightly answer my question so I will pose it again.

What does it mean to be a man or a woman?

For me that experience is tied up in experiences of body, but it clearly means something different for everyone. Even the cis folks I know have very different perspectives on what their body and gender identity and gendered expectations and sexuality mean to them. I interpret my own experiences through a lens of feminine physicality and the metaphysical ideas associated with it, and thus I identify with that schema even though I don't identify as A Woman™ as such. I also identify heavily with the forms of gender non-conformity seen in classical antiquity and pre-colonial societies, which are often ignored in discourse like this in favor of making transgender identity as a concept seem like it was cooked up by the Frankfurt School or a bunch of random sex pests who are easy targets for the right.

Ultimately I can only speak for my own experiences, although I know that there are plenty of folks here who can speak for their own perspective on gender non-conformity, trans or otherwise.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

[TheReckoning]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

Well, it's fairly simple. How do you know you're a man? (assuming you are one, of course--replace this with whatever your gender is if you're not)

[TheReckoning]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

Well, it's fairly simple. How do you know you're a man? (assuming you are one, of course--replace this with whatever your gender is if you're not)

I was told from a young age what my gender was by others, who determined it by what’s in my pants. I never saw any reason to disagree.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

Well, it's fairly simple. How do you know you're a man? (assuming you are one, of course--replace this with whatever your gender is if you're not)

I was told from a young age what my gender was by others, who determined it by what’s in my pants. I never saw any reason to disagree.

So if you had been assigned female at birth (like, ignore the obvious genetic fact that the person who would replace you in the AFAB Reckoning universe would most likely be a different person entirely because obviously it's not like the only difference between sperm cells from the same provider at a given moment is sex), do you think you would have taken the same path (i.e. grown up to become a cisgender woman)?

[TheReckoning]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

Well, it's fairly simple. How do you know you're a man? (assuming you are one, of course--replace this with whatever your gender is if you're not)

I was told from a young age what my gender was by others, who determined it by what’s in my pants. I never saw any reason to disagree.

So if you had been assigned female at birth (like, ignore the obvious genetic fact that the person who would replace you in the AFAB Reckoning universe would most likely be a different person entirely because obviously it's not like the only difference between sperm cells from the same provider at a given moment is sex), do you think you would have taken the same path (i.e. grown up to become a cisgender woman)?

Honestly? It’s impossible to know for sure, but I personally don’t see why I wouldn’t grow up to be a cisgender women.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

What does it mean to be a woman or man? I have yet to hear an answer to this that did not fall back on gender stereotypes.

It's as the late, great poet J. R. Steinman once said: You'll never know what it means, but you'll know how it feels.

Really? Because I sure don’t.

Well, it's fairly simple. How do you know you're a man? (assuming you are one, of course--replace this with whatever your gender is if you're not)

I was told from a young age what my gender was by others, who determined it by what’s in my pants. I never saw any reason to disagree.

So if you had been assigned female at birth (like, ignore the obvious genetic fact that the person who would replace you in the AFAB Reckoning universe would most likely be a different person entirely because obviously it's not like the only difference between sperm cells from the same provider at a given moment is sex), do you think you would have taken the same path (i.e. grown up to become a cisgender woman)?

Honestly? It’s impossible to know for sure, but I personally don’t see why I wouldn’t grow up to be a cisgender women.

Fair enough. I don't know, I guess maybe most cis people just don't think that deeply about it.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

See, this is the sort of definitions game that Antonio was talking about on the first page of this thread. Trans men obviously exist and obviously, in at least some cases, can and do get pregnant. That much is simply beyond denial. What purpose is served by the endless syntactical arguments about what specific type of noun phrase "trans man" is, arguments generally engaged in by people deeply hostile to one another on increasingly profound cultural and moral levels and often without any demonstrably accurate premises or rigorous definition of terms on either side? As far as I can tell the only purposes they serve are that of a make-work program for right-wing humanities scholars and that of a way for irreligious progressives to chase the high of being ruled orthodox at a first-millennium ecumenical council. It's a fundamentally frivolous and bad-faith way of approaching an issue area that involves genuinely serious concerns.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

See, this is the sort of definitions game that Antonio was talking about on the first page of this thread. Trans men obviously exist and obviously, in at least some cases, can and do get pregnant. That much is simply beyond denial. What purpose is served by the endless syntactical arguments about what specific type of noun phrase "trans man" is, arguments generally engaged in by people deeply hostile to one another on increasingly profound cultural and moral levels and often without any demonstrably accurate premises or rigorous definition of terms on either side? As far as I can tell the only purposes they serve are that of a make-work program for right-wing humanities scholars and that of a way for irreligious progressives to chase the high of being ruled orthodox at a first-millennium ecumenical council. It's a fundamentally frivolous and bad-faith way of approaching an issue area that involves genuinely serious concerns.

For most trans people, being seen as our gender instead of our physical sex is pretty important. I don't see any good reason for the other side of the debate to care, but it is significant to us.

[Green Line]

Trans men exist. So yes.(sane, abnormal)

Trans men are trans men.  They are not biologically a man, so no.  What they choose to identify as is different from what they literally are.  Thats not even a slight at them, its just literally facts.

See, this is the sort of definitions game that Antonio was talking about on the first page of this thread. Trans men obviously exist and obviously, in at least some cases, can and do get pregnant. That much is simply beyond denial. What purpose is served by the endless syntactical arguments about what specific type of noun phrase "trans man" is, arguments generally engaged in by people deeply hostile to one another on increasingly profound cultural and moral levels and often without any demonstrably accurate premises or rigorous definition of terms on either side? As far as I can tell the only purposes they serve are that of a make-work program for right-wing humanities scholars and that of a way for irreligious progressives to chase the high of being ruled orthodox at a first-millennium ecumenical council. It's a fundamentally frivolous and bad-faith way of approaching an issue area that involves genuinely serious concerns.

A trans man is not a biological man.  Men have a penis and cannot get pregnant.  This is not semantics, its actually a very important distinction.  Its disturbing that there are people here who think its just arguing over words.