Brazilian presidential and general elections 2022 (1st round: October 2nd, 2nd round: October 30th)
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« Reply #925 on: October 02, 2022, 06:03:40 PM »

Lula just took the lead!
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« Reply #926 on: October 02, 2022, 06:04:05 PM »

I feel bummed, I don't know, it seems that Lula won't make it in the first round, I was really hoping so.

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."

Don't give them the satisfaction, Lula will by all accounts be President of the worlds 4th largest democracy come 2023. Pessimism is perhaps the most powerful tool of the elite to keep people disengaged and disorganized and there's way too much at stake in our world today to let it win.
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« Reply #927 on: October 02, 2022, 06:04:14 PM »

Lula surges ahead. 45.7% vs 45.5%. 70% counted.
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« Reply #928 on: October 02, 2022, 06:04:38 PM »

70.00% Reporting

LULA- 37,265,102 (45.74%)
BOLSONARO- 37,074,784 (45.51%)





1.5% in Amazonas with 75% in...
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« Reply #929 on: October 02, 2022, 06:04:58 PM »

Sounds like the runoff is going to be very close… some type of Peru 2021 election
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« Reply #930 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:34 PM »

No chance of Lula winning in the first round?

Given he has hoovered up the left vote, relative to 2018, I don't think the percentages in the Northeast are high enough.
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« Reply #931 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:36 PM »

I guess it’s Round 2 then?
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« Reply #932 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:51 PM »

Sounds like the runoff is going to be very close… some type of Peru 2021 election


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« Reply #933 on: October 02, 2022, 06:05:59 PM »

No chance of Lula winning in the first round?

I definitely wouldn't bet on it, but we don't know how much more heavily the remaining vote is for Lula relative to what has come before it, so technically not a certainty.
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« Reply #934 on: October 02, 2022, 06:06:41 PM »

Datafolha is projecting a runoff between the two candidates.
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« Reply #935 on: October 02, 2022, 06:08:13 PM »

Yep, it was just announced on Globo.
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« Reply #936 on: October 02, 2022, 06:10:21 PM »

A PT supporting friend who lives in Brazil said she’s shocked at how much Bolsonaro overperformed, she genuinely thought he’d be in the 30s, is that the general mood there?

I personally was shocked at the diaspora vote, considering how Pro-Bolsonaro they were in 2018. Seems only Japan voted for Bolsonaro in big numbers this time.
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« Reply #937 on: October 02, 2022, 06:12:53 PM »

Sounds like the runoff is going to be very close… some type of Peru 2021 election

I am sure the first polls will have Lula ahead by 10.  It could be that Bolsonaro can outperform polls again and get pretty close.  I am skeptical Bolsonaro can get it to Peru 2021 close.
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« Reply #938 on: October 02, 2022, 06:13:26 PM »

The updates have been getting a little better for Lula; still think decently good chance he's above 48.
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« Reply #939 on: October 02, 2022, 06:13:45 PM »

I heard something, a few days ago, on a TV program in Portugal, a Brazilian pundit saying that polls should be taken with a grain of salt because there was a "data blackout" due to the fact that the 2020 census didn't happened and there was no info on the demographics of the country. Polling companies had to use their own projections of how the country actually looks like, and maybe they were considerably off.

Also, history is made: PSDB has been booted out from São Paulo's governorship.
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« Reply #940 on: October 02, 2022, 06:16:52 PM »

I heard something, a few days ago, on a TV program in Portugal, a Brazilian pundit saying that polls should be taken with a grain of salt because there was a "data blackout" due to the fact that the 2020 census didn't happen and there was no info on the demographics of the country. Polling companies had to use their own projections of how the country actually looks like, and maybe they were considerably off.

Was the COVID pandemic the reason why the 2020 census didn't happen?  
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« Reply #941 on: October 02, 2022, 06:17:00 PM »

The updates have been getting a little better for Lula; still think decently good chance he's above 48.

I'd probably bet on something like 48.5, if I had to put a number on it.
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« Reply #942 on: October 02, 2022, 06:18:18 PM »

When’s the next update?
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« Reply #943 on: October 02, 2022, 06:18:26 PM »

79.45% Reporting

LULA- 43,086,929 (46.29%%)
BOLSONARO- 41,888,346 (45.01%)

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« Reply #944 on: October 02, 2022, 06:19:30 PM »

70.00% Reporting

LULA- 37,265,102 (45.74%)
BOLSONARO- 37,074,784 (45.51%)





1.5% in Amazonas with 75% in...

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« Reply #945 on: October 02, 2022, 06:20:07 PM »

I heard something, a few days ago, on a TV program in Portugal, a Brazilian pundit saying that polls should be taken with a grain of salt because there was a "data blackout" due to the fact that the 2020 census didn't happen and there was no info on the demographics of the country. Polling companies had to use their own projections of how the country actually looks like, and maybe they were considerably off.

Was the COVID pandemic the reason why the 2020 census didn't happen?  


To be honest, that may have been the excuse, but it was, most certainly, incompetence of the federal government in giving the resources and managing the logistics. Portugal, the UK, the US, did their Census normally, however there was issues in the US.
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« Reply #946 on: October 02, 2022, 06:20:26 PM »

I see that a lot of people posting in this thread have never followed a Brazilian election before.
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« Reply #947 on: October 02, 2022, 06:20:51 PM »

Sergio Moro has just been elected senator in Paraná, unseating his former ally Álvaro Dias and overperforming all the polls.
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« Reply #948 on: October 02, 2022, 06:23:40 PM »

Sergio Moro has just been elected senator in Paraná, unseating his former ally Álvaro Dias and overperforming all the polls.

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« Reply #949 on: October 02, 2022, 06:25:58 PM »

Well, I'm not surprised that Bolsonaro has overperformed the polls. It's Brazil after all.

The Bolsonaro Cult is strong.
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