How would you explain this 407-131 Democratic landslide?
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« on: October 03, 2021, 01:35:56 PM »



What could produce results like this?  Are there any circumstances under which these numbers are possible?
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2021, 01:48:11 PM »

Republicans nominating Roy Moore
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2021, 01:54:52 PM »

BTW, I think a map like this would win Democrats a 50/50 Senate at best.

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2021, 02:26:19 PM »

Pence-Haley ticket
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2021, 03:14:47 PM »


Roy Moore would destroy Joe Biden or Kamala Harris
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2021, 03:43:09 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2021, 05:39:15 PM by Frodo »

A realignment election (2032, maybe) after an economic calamity under a Republican trifecta.  
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2021, 04:18:04 PM »


Roy Moore would destroy Joe Biden or Kamala Harris
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2021, 05:11:31 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2021, 05:17:22 PM by TodayJunior »

A normal Democratic re-election victory in the mode of 1996, which I fully expect in real life, though I’d switch Iowa and Texas. The 2024 Republican nominee was Ted Cruz.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2021, 05:29:37 PM »


If Roy Moore were the GOP nominee, it probably wouldn't be much different from the 2020 election. MAYBE North Carolina flips, but that's about it. The only reason Moore lost AL-SEN 2017 is because it was the only race on the ballot.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2021, 05:40:00 PM »


If Roy Moore were the GOP nominee, it probably wouldn't be much different from the 2020 election. MAYBE North Carolina flips, but that's about it. The only reason Moore lost AL-SEN 2017 is because it was the only race on the ballot.
That clown would be DOA in Florida.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2021, 05:43:10 PM »


If Roy Moore were the GOP nominee, it probably wouldn't be much different from the 2020 election. MAYBE North Carolina flips, but that's about it. The only reason Moore lost AL-SEN 2017 is because it was the only race on the ballot.
That clown would be DOA in Florida.

How many people do you know who voted for Trump but wouldn't vote for Moore?
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2021, 06:03:32 PM »

Secret audio comes out of Trump (as the GOP 2024 nominee) planning to poison populated Democratic metropolitan areas with salmonella to reduce voter turnout, taking a cue from the Rajneesh cultists in Oregon which someone unfortunately told him about, and that ends up not sitting well with most voters, and Democrats especially in those urban areas.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2021, 06:19:42 PM »


If Roy Moore were the GOP nominee, it probably wouldn't be much different from the 2020 election. MAYBE North Carolina flips, but that's about it. The only reason Moore lost AL-SEN 2017 is because it was the only race on the ballot.
That clown would be DOA in Florida.

How many people do you know who voted for Trump but wouldn't vote for Moore?

I think a lot of people voted for Trump because they were afraid Socialists would take over the country if he lost.  Seeing as how that obviously didn't happen, I could imagine a lot of people coming back to reality and, yes, voting against the pedophile
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2021, 06:22:59 PM »

A normal Democratic re-election victory in the mode of 1996, which I fully expect in real life, though I’d switch Iowa and Texas. The 2024 Republican nominee was Ted Cruz.

You don't think polarization has increased substantially since 1996?
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2021, 11:58:24 PM »

That's a authoritarian NUT map.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2021, 11:24:13 AM »
« Edited: October 04, 2021, 02:45:31 PM by Josh Shapiro for Governor »

This is the sort of shellacking the Republican Party deserves.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2021, 12:25:40 PM »

A normal Democratic re-election victory in the mode of 1996, which I fully expect in real life, though I’d switch Iowa and Texas. The 2024 Republican nominee was Ted Cruz.

You don't think polarization has increased substantially since 1996?
I’m saying Democrats have the structural advantage in key states now and it wouldn’t take much to push FL/NC over the line for Dems. Ohio is winnable but it would happen in a 2008-style win, which is very much possible. Perhaps I should have gone with 2008, not 1996.
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2021, 12:45:17 PM »

Covid is finally under control and a distant (albeit painful) memory, but anti-mask/anti-vaccine sentiment concentrated in red counties spills over to flu shots, and a bad influenza strain does as much damage to those areas as another Covid wave. While it's eventually contained, it does even more to undermine the Q rhetoric that's become mainstream within the GOP.

The Q attempts to purge the GOP of moderates and independent-minded conservatives, even as they cry about solid red states like Alabama and Idaho having elections stolen from the same party that wins all of them in landslides, but those efforts backfire as party infighting leads to depressed turnout.

The economy weathers a minor recession, but it starts picking up post-Covid, and Biden is able to narrowly get a federal minimum wage increase passed ($12/hour, indexed to inflation), a feather in his cap he uses to presents himself as the advocate of working class Americans who have been left behind economically for years, particularly in red states.

The GOP primary is a circus, with Trump waiting until the last possible second to jump in, while Pence, Cruz, DeSantis, Rick Scott, and Josh Hawley have already been duking it out for months. Trump goes scorched earth and smears every one of them on his way to another primary victory, and selects Mike Lindell as his running mate.

The Trump-Lindell campaign rallying cry is the lazy and clumsy "Make America Great One More Time" (sung to the tune of the Britney Spears classic), and they spend most of their time talking about how the Deep State stole the 2020 election. Independents and undecided voters are confused by the messaging, shrug their shoulders, and just vote to keep Biden around, hoping that toupees, adult diapers, and pillow fetishes are a thing of the past with our major party candidates in 2028.

You know, aside from the Mike Lindell stuff, I don't think any of this is all that farfetched. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2021, 03:21:49 PM »

Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert must have gotten the GOP nomination.

In this case, Indiana, Iowa, Utah, and Alaska, were only Tilt-R.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2021, 12:50:16 AM »

MTG as the Dem nominee and has a major scandal seems the most probable to me.
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2021, 01:54:27 AM »

Whitmer/O'Rourke. Whitmer helps flip the rust belt and O'Rourke flips Texas. The pandemic ends shortly before November with a strong approval from the general populace, but Biden refuses to seek out a second term due to old age, and Kamala Harris retires from politics to do philanthropy or campaigning for others or something.
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2021, 11:48:42 PM »

New, highly infectious COVID variant has a mortality rate of >15% among the unvaccinated.
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2021, 11:57:55 PM »

BTW, I think a map like this would win Democrats a 50/50 Senate at best.

If it's this big a landslide, I think Democrats actually could have a net gain in the Senate as they only lose West Virginia but manage to flip both Florida and Texas.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2021, 12:39:58 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2021, 12:44:42 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

It's not happening, TX isn't going blue, due to Biden administration missteps on immigration they let illegals in the country too fast they thought Covid was disappearing so they could pass immigration reform and it didnt
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2021, 08:44:56 AM »



What could produce results like this?  Are there any circumstances under which these numbers are possible?

The pandemic is over by 2024, and Biden is credited for having handled it well. The Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court issued its report in Nov. 2021 and in it was a good recommendation for how to depoliticize the appointment of SCOTUS Justices that Biden strongly endorsed; public opinion is steering toward the hope that the Court will be improved - less politicized - in the future. The GOP nominated a person as nutty as Trump.
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