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« on: September 24, 2021, 11:48:46 AM »
Are 'sore loser' laws undemocratic?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2021, 07:00:37 PM »
Maybe not "undemocratic" per se, but I don't like them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2021, 08:08:20 PM »
With a top-two open primary system, sore loser laws aren't needed. They are a relic of closed or semi-open primaries that open their general election ballot to candidates beyond those in the primaries.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2021, 09:32:25 PM »
Quote from: West_Midlander on September 24, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
Maybe not "undemocratic" per se, but I don't like them.

Definitely this. They're not a good thing, but calling them 'undemocratic' is probably a stretch.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2021, 10:13:37 AM »
Tbh, yeah, they are, but the problem lies at the root of the primary system as it's currently structured. Implementing RCV would resolve the issue.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2021, 02:34:28 PM »
Yeah, losing a primary election shouldn't ban you from running the subsequent general election. Whether one should or not is a political or tactical question.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 10:30:30 AM »
Yeah but democracy isn't everything.

I'm fine with sore loser laws provided we take steps to give minor parties more representation.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2021, 11:47:54 PM »
What's a sore loser law?
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2021, 11:49:24 PM »
A law that forbids a person who lost a primary to be a regular candidate in the general election.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 02:24:11 PM »
Quote from: West "Antifa" Midlander 🎄 on September 24, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
Maybe not "undemocratic" per se, but I don't like them.

I kinda have the opposite perspective, they're somewhat undemocratic but I do think they're necessary.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2021, 02:41:34 PM »
Quote from: Ferguson97 on December 03, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: West "Antifa" Midlander 🎄 on September 24, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
Maybe not "undemocratic" per se, but I don't like them.

I kinda have the opposite perspective, they're somewhat undemocratic but I do think they're necessary.

Under RCV or approval voting, those laws are not really necessary, though, and they increase voter choice, especially since general election turnout dwarfs primary turnout, it's only fair to give voters a chance at more choice in the general.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2021, 02:35:23 PM »
I see primaries and generals as fundamentally different things. A primary is for a party to decide who represents them in a general election. A general is to decide who all the voters of that district want to represent them in Congress. A party choosing not to represent someone should not be a barrier to holding elected office.
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