2021 Canadian general election - Election Day and Results

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https://theturtleislandnews.com/index.php/2021/09/20/federal-election-poll-moves-off-six-nations-after-haudenosaunee-confederacy-council-supporters-block-driveway/
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[warandwar]

https://theturtleislandnews.com/index.php/2021/09/20/federal-election-poll-moves-off-six-nations-after-haudenosaunee-confederacy-council-supporters-block-driveway/
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Great. Another of those rogue Native "governments", who are in fact a cover for weapon and drugs smuggling.

Tell me you're from Quebec wothout telling me you're from Quebec

[warandwar]

Major issue with the NDP is that, once in power, they do not govern in a way that lives up to their federal promises. It's noticeable that Horgan and Notley have had no coattails here. In this context a personal campaign around a fairly popular leader makes sense, but that didn't work either. I don't think a change of leadership would help here. There needs to be a fundamental change in the federal party's objectives. They need to figure out their base that wins them provinicial seats (working class, indigenous, young folks) and act like the Bloc - if its good we vote yes, if its bad for them we vote no.

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How about John Horgan. Does he want the top job?

Interesting, would that not be a first in Canada? A former provincial Premier winning a federal nomination?
I know former provincial party leaders have.

Bob Rae was Interim leader of the Liberal Party after having been an NDP premier. Horgan might just pull the same trick if he has federal ambitions.

Every NDP member's dream - to exactly mimic Bob Rae's career

[warandwar]

Yes Jagmeet's NDP has become very much a party of millennials in gentrified or gentrifying areas.

The Toronto riding of Parkdale-High Park is a good example.  The NDP ran a super-"woke" candidate, Paul Taylor, who greatly improved the vote share and is in a very good position to take it next time.  

Where they do well doesn't equal what they are "a party of."

[warandwar]

Yes to all of the above; also general unionization would be high I think from public sector workers (Victoria the BC capital being on the island) General west coast progressive-old hippie, new young "woke" vibe. Environmentalists and a solid Indigenous community.

Yes this is all there as well, though has been as liable to help (once) Liberal and (now) Green candidates as Dippers. But it all adds up to a landscape in which, for once, the NDP often benefit as the comparatively middle of the road option between relative extremes, at least on the sort of issues that are particularly sensitive on the Island...

Outside of Victoria, is Vancouver Islands population still more working class than hippies/migrants from urban areas?

Yes, and a lot of those hippies are working class.

[warandwar]

Yes to all of the above; also general unionization would be high I think from public sector workers (Victoria the BC capital being on the island) General west coast progressive-old hippie, new young "woke" vibe. Environmentalists and a solid Indigenous community.

Yes this is all there as well, though has been as liable to help (once) Liberal and (now) Green candidates as Dippers. But it all adds up to a landscape in which, for once, the NDP often benefit as the comparatively middle of the road option between relative extremes, at least on the sort of issues that are particularly sensitive on the Island...

Outside of Victoria, is Vancouver Islands population still more working class than hippies/migrants from urban areas?

Yes, and a lot of those hippies are working class.

Effectively the more North you go, the further from the Capital region the, more the region shifts into resources based working class. The CPC is the main opposition to the NDP on the island, particularly in Courtney-Alberni and North Island-Powell River, but pretty much everywhere now. Saanich Green vote is more a May vote now but is really their base of support, amongst more affluent older voters. The Greens have dropped down to their mostly 3rd or 4th place even in Nanaimo-Ladysmith

Things are skewed in the Islands, but i feel like there the hippies and draft dodgers are the working class, compared to some of the giant houses you see out there!

[warandwar]

Mulclair's post leadership career is pretty vengeful and disgraceful as well. Nasty person all around.