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« on: September 10, 2021, 09:15:36 AM »

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(CNN)Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Thursday urged Republicans "to face the realities of the 2020 election and learn, not hide from them," as he lobbed several thinly veiled criticisms at his one-time ally, former President Donald Trump.

"​​We need to renounce the conspiracy theorists and the truth deniers. The ones who know better and the ones who are just plain nuts," said Christie, speaking to an in-person audience at the Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. "We need to give our supporters facts that will help them put all those fantasies to rest."
While the 59-year-old Republican stopped short of criticizing Trump by name, his critique of the GOP was clearly centered on the former President and his lies about the 2020 election.
"We need to quit wasting our time, our energy and our credibility on claims that won't ever convince anyone of anything," Christie said. "Pretending we won when we lost is a waste of time and energy and credibility."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/politics/chris-christie-gop-2020-election-reality/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2021, 09:45:16 AM »

Dude is irrelevant. Next.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2021, 10:14:24 AM »

Christie's shining moment was his incredible takedown of Rubio during the 2016 primary debate.

I wish he had a chance in the 2024 primary, but the Republican Party is changing.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2021, 10:45:06 AM »

If only Christie weren’t a totally corrupt asshole he’d be a decent standard bearer for anti-Trump Republicanism. He was an ok governor before bridge gate in terms of policy and was a moderate prior to latching his boat to Trump’s (which was likely out of necessity).

It is likely that his shining moment will be stomping little Marco on a national stage, however.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2021, 12:43:29 PM »

He's right, Ds can net gain seats in the Midterms and the Midterm jinx would be over
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2021, 01:06:42 PM »

Christie certainly makes sense as the character that carries the anti-Trump mantle the more you think about it, and his personality/rhetorical style could make him the most effective Trump foil, to the extent that a Trump foil can be effective in a 2024 Republican primary.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2021, 01:08:55 PM »

He's the only non-Trump aligned politician right now who has any force of personality.

Why is everyone else so feckless-seeming? Ideological extremism isn't necessary to show strength.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2021, 03:39:58 PM »

I don't think he will take down trump, but if there's someone who brings the party back from the brink it's probably him
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2021, 03:47:49 PM »

I'll add as well that Christie is no political idiot - if he is floating a 2024 run against Trump, he likely has some powerful/influential/wealthy people in his corner urging him to do so.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2021, 04:23:38 PM »

I don't think he will take down trump, but if there's someone who brings the party back from the brink it's probably him

Trump will win primary but lose the GE even Hogan said that, by am even bigger LANDSLIDE THAN 2020

WC men aren't the majority party
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2021, 05:30:37 PM »

Lmao
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2021, 05:41:28 PM »

He was one of Trump's first major endorsers, he helped make Trump. He has no right to look down others for something he helped create. He is going about this in the Meghan McCain direction where he seems intent on just alienating every major political demographic possible. His legacy is one of corruption to Democrats and now he is making himself look like a traitor to Republicans and the attitudes that comprise their core.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2021, 06:51:44 PM »

I'll add as well that Christie is no political idiot - if he is floating a 2024 run against Trump, he likely has some powerful/influential/wealthy people in his corner urging him to do so.

Obviously. His wife is a former banker, Wall Street may support him...he is a board of directors at the New York Mets National League Baseball organization, the new Mets owner Steve Cohen is probably a Never Trump person and probably wants him
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2021, 07:43:06 PM »

So a guy that shut down a populated bridge for political reasons is now claiming his party is out of touch? This guy had a 17% approval rating and partied on his private beach while the state was shut down. Pass.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2021, 07:58:52 PM »

So a guy that shut down a populated bridge for political reasons is now claiming his party is out of touch? This guy had a 17% approval rating and partied on his private beach while the state was shut down. Pass.

Exactly---and Christie, who his wife and brother were on Lower Manhattan on 9/11, on 9/11/2013, Christie knew about the bridge closures....shameful

The best Christie would be in the future is AG
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2021, 03:12:40 AM »
« Edited: September 11, 2021, 05:06:23 AM by BlueSwan »

The main problem with Christies' point is that if the GQP gets rid of the conspiracy theorists, truth deniers and nutjobs they would be left with basically nobody. This is what the rest of the established GQP realizes. They totally depend on the Qanon nutcases. They are stuck in this.
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2021, 03:29:13 AM »

LoL Kasich 2.0.

With the GQP doubling down on Trumpism, I honestly don't see how he thinks this is a winning path. Most of the so-called "adults" in the GQP have left the party cult and are now either independents or Democrats. And even if for some reason he were to gain momentum, all it would take is for the tfg to call up his cronies in the state cults and have them cancel their primaries.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2021, 03:50:57 AM »

LoL Kasich 2.0.

With the GQP doubling down on Trumpism, I honestly don't see how he thinks this is a winning path. Most of the so-called "adults" in the GQP have left the party cult and are now either independents or Democrats. And even if for some reason he were to gain momentum, all it would take is for the tfg to call up his cronies in the state cults and have them cancel their primaries.

This is insulting to the real Kasich, who has been opposed to Trump from the very start and staunchly refused an offer to be an unprecedently powerful VP. Christie meanwhile seized on what little power that bastard offered him, and only now when it's no longer convenient for him does he even dare to break ranks.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2021, 05:46:51 AM »

Trump will never win an Election again, he doesn't have the discipline like most politicians have from the many gaffes but DeSantis maybe Prez
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2021, 03:54:33 PM »

The main problem with Christies' point is that if the GQP gets rid of the conspiracy theorists, truth deniers and nutjobs they would be left with basically nobody. This is what the rest of the established GQP realizes. They totally depend on the Qanon nutcases. They are stuck in this.

See this kind of thinking doesn't make any sense.

It certainly seems more likely that the populists will be able to keep control of the party, but there's no reason to think the GOP couldn't possibly revert course. The political realignment hasn't finished and it's certainly possible that the gop regains its old voting block that has lept away. in fact, they're probably the GOPs best (only) shot at doing so.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2021, 05:56:12 PM »

A lot of you guys have missed the point.

Only someone who did support Trump can actually have a chance at taking him down.

Anyone like Kasich "who was against him from the start" or Romney or anyone like that would never stand a chance and Hogan and the like is much too moderate to begin with.

It has to be someone who backed Trump in 2016, is conservative on the big three (abortion, guns, borders) and knows how to win a bar fight.

To take Trump down you have to be tougher than he is, you have to demonstrate that he is a coward and you have to convince the majority of Republicans that he actively lied to them for power and is thus no better than the establishment con men they despise so much.
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2021, 06:39:59 PM »

I don't understand the big deal about Trump he is a 1 term impeached Prez blue avatars act like he is Reagan, he isn't any Reagan except the fact that climate got worse under Trump  as well as Reagan due to enhanced Fracking and Drilling not offshore but on Fed Land

Reagan helped destroy the Environment too
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2021, 07:46:11 PM »

Christie's mad because Trump did nothing to bolster HIS career after Christie went all in with him.

Romney wasn't close to picking Christie as his VP when his stock was at it's highest.  There are reasons for that, and I'd love for Romney to tell us why that was.
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2021, 08:04:48 PM »

Christie's mad because Trump did nothing to bolster HIS career after Christie went all in with him.

Romney wasn't close to picking Christie as his VP when his stock was at it's highest.  There are reasons for that, and I'd love for Romney to tell us why that was.

Christie is another self absorbed type. Look at his presentation at the 2012 convention, it basically reads like he is getting the nomination and the fact that Romney allowed that at this convention is an embarrassment, but it was probably the only way to get him to attend.

My guess was that Romney had some kind of scandalous dirt on him or was just pissed at his self absorbed style.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2021, 08:36:49 PM »

A lot of you guys have missed the point.

Only someone who did support Trump can actually have a chance at taking him down.

Anyone like Kasich "who was against him from the start" or Romney or anyone like that would never stand a chance and Hogan and the like is much too moderate to begin with.

It has to be someone who backed Trump in 2016, is conservative on the big three (abortion, guns, borders) and knows how to win a bar fight.

To take Trump down you have to be tougher than he is, you have to demonstrate that he is a coward and you have to convince the majority of Republicans that he actively lied to them for power and is thus no better than the establishment con men they despise so much.

I don’t disagree about any of this, I’m just saying he’s not “Kasich 2.0”
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