Is Court Packing back on the table?

[Brittain33]

Only if there's an unprecedented Dem wave in 2022, but I wouldn't wishcast that.

[Pericles]

Manchin and Sinema aren’t going to budge.

It won’t happen.

Are you going to expel them from the Democratic Party for that? This is why I am a Independent voter.

Court-packing is a bad idea, but not removing the filibuster is is primary-able offence (for Sinema only though, Manchin is the only Democrat who has any shot in WV).

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Not only is this not happening due to Manchin, but is anyone confident that the five lockstep far-right judges don't immediately issue a one-line ruling overturning the court-packing bill?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Only if there's an unprecedented Dem wave in 2022, but I wouldn't wishcast that.

Ryan and Jackson said they're against Crt packing even if there were they are moderates not liberals

[Person Man]

Eventually

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Crt packing is overrated, what will a Supermajority Crt due but Federalize LGBT, and Citizens United is gonna be here to stay

John Lewis VR and if D's pass DC Statehood limits Judicial Review of Judges which is Constitutional

We already have birth control pills, Adoptions and condems

Females can get colon and ovarian cancer which my mom died from actually due to abortions and birth contro, pollsl, we as men don't have a uterus, that bleeds


Just like Covid isn't the flu it's a virus like TB among Homeless that give it to normal people, I have said Birth control and abortions causes cancer many times already


We still have a Hepititis and TB Pandemic

[It’s so Joever]

If abortion is the number one issue in 2022, we are screwed.

[Tekken_Guy]

Not only is this not happening due to Manchin, but is anyone confident that the five lockstep far-right judges don't immediately issue a one-line ruling overturning the court-packing bill?

Even Roberts might join in on the ruling.

[Stockdale for Veep]

Do the Dems have balls?

Best case scenario is that Roberts quits within the 12 months, and Biden replaces him with a hardline Liberal that refuses to hear any marquee cases they know will go the cons way 5-4. The system is already broken, a few more holes won't change anything.

[emailking]

Do the Dems have balls?

Best case scenario is that Roberts quits within the 12 months, and Biden replaces him with a hardline Liberal that refuses to hear any marquee cases they know will go the cons way 5-4. The system is already broken, a few more holes won't change anything.

You need 4 to hear a case, not block a case.

[Virginiá]

No, and it was never really on the table to begin with. Not really.

Democrats are still having trouble passing parts of their agenda that most of them agree on. That makes contentious issues that there are fissures on impossible.

[Stockdale for Veep]

Do the Dems have balls?

Best case scenario is that Roberts quits within the 12 months, and Biden replaces him with a hardline Liberal that refuses to hear any marquee cases they know will go the cons way 5-4. The system is already broken, a few more holes won't change anything.

You need 4 to hear a case, not block a case.

[Progressive Pessimist]

It's never going to happen. All we can hope for is Breyer retiring, Biden winning re-election with a Democratic Senate still, and maybe Alito and Thomas (if we have the best luck in the world) retiring after that point. And there is about a .5% chance of all that at best, probably.

In reality we'll likely just have to wait an entire generation and have the most perfect timing possible to ever see four or more Democratic appointed justices on the Court ever again. I am confident that our country will have made zero progress on reforming any of our institutions by then. Assuming we have a country at all and not just scraps of a dystopian wasteland by the time the generation that destroyed the country finally dies off.

All situations are no-win situations when you aren't a right winger in this abysmal nation.

[Person Man]

Not only is this not happening due to Manchin, but is anyone confident that the five lockstep far-right judges don't immediately issue a one-line ruling overturning the court-packing bill?

Even Roberts might join in on the ruling.

That doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

[Person Man]

It's never going to happen. All we can hope for is Breyer retiring, Biden winning re-election with a Democratic Senate still, and maybe Alito and Thomas (if we have the best luck in the world) retiring after that point. And there is about a .5% chance of all that at best, probably.

In reality we'll likely just have to wait an entire generation and have the most perfect timing possible to ever see four or more Democratic appointed justices on the Court ever again. I am confident that our country will have made zero progress on reforming any of our institutions by then. Assuming we have a country at all and not just scraps of a dystopian wasteland by the time the generation that destroyed the country finally dies off.

All situations are no-win situations when you aren't a right winger in this abysmal nation.

If things get that bad here, it’s not going to be better anywhere else unless you can Chinese.

[beaver2.0]

Was it ever really on the table?  Maybe in 2028 or 2030 it will be, but not until a whole new generation of Democrats make it into Congress.

[Vespucci]

It's never going to happen. All we can hope for is Breyer retiring, Biden winning re-election with a Democratic Senate still, and maybe Alito and Thomas (if we have the best luck in the world) retiring after that point. And there is about a .5% chance of all that at best, probably.

In reality we'll likely just have to wait an entire generation and have the most perfect timing possible to ever see four or more Democratic appointed justices on the Court ever again. I am confident that our country will have made zero progress on reforming any of our institutions by then. Assuming we have a country at all and not just scraps of a dystopian wasteland by the time the generation that destroyed the country finally dies off.

All situations are no-win situations when you aren't a right winger in this abysmal nation.

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[Senator Spark]

Absolutely not. It's totally unconstitutional and dangerous to tamper with the balance of the court.

[7,052,770]

Absolutely not. It's totally unconstitutional and dangerous to tamper with the balance of the court.

Not unconstitutional, and Republicans already tampered with the "balance" by filling two vacancies that arose 55 months apart in a single 48-month term. Democrats would just be punching back in a line that's already been crossed.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This is a Harry thread, No Harry it's not happening, we already have Planned  Parenthood adoption and Birth Control, and condemns, abortion isn't the only birth control and females go thru menapause by 45 anyways

D's get so riled up over abortion it's not the only birth control this isn't 1973 ANYMORE

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Absolutely not. It's totally unconstitutional and dangerous to tamper with the balance of the court.

Not unconstitutional, and Republicans already tampered with the "balance" by filling two vacancies that arose 55 months apart in a single 48-month term. Democrats would just be punching back in a line that's already been crossed.

10 D's already said No and Feinstein, Tester, Manchin, Kelly, Hassan and Shaheen already said No


Feinstein, Kelly, Tester,Sinema and Manchin already sent a letter to Biden with his Crt packing commission no to Crt packing


If an R get back in, they can lower it or add justices, more than likely lower it again

[Joe Republic]

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Nope, she proved that she has absolutely no idea what she's doing when she voted to confirm Kavanaugh.  It's one thing to ignore the Blasey Ford events, but to give a long sermon on the Senate floor about how she's been totally convinced that Brett Kavanaugh will respect precedent and defend Roe v. Wade... she's just a joke.

Also remember when she voted against Trump's first impeachment because "he had learned his lesson"?

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You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Richard Hanna was the last congressional Republican who was really pro-choice.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Everyone talks about how conservative Kavanaugh is, he voted to keep Planned Parenthood birth control pills and adoptions, he never committed himself to Roe, this Crt affirmed Planned Parenthood 6/3 and females go thru menapause anyways at 45

I disagree with Kavanaugh and Collins, like Johnson are theost endangered Rs in 2022/2026 but that's why Trump picked him not to affirm Roe

The bill to Codify Roe isn't gonna pass Sen, due to Filibuster

[7,052,770]

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Nope, she proved that she has absolutely no idea what she's doing when she voted to confirm Kavanaugh.  It's one thing to ignore the Blasey Ford events, but to give a long sermon on the Senate floor about how she's been totally convinced that Brett Kavanaugh will respect precedent and defend Roe v. Wade... she's just a joke.

Also remember when she voted against Trump's first impeachment because "he had learned his lesson"?

Yeah, I'm definitely wishcasting and not making a valid prediction backed up by facts. But Schumer should definitely float this idea by her an Murk and see what they say.