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« on: September 02, 2021, 12:21:18 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2021, 12:21:59 AM »

Appointing justices has no fillibuster but passing a law to expand the size of the court does
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2021, 12:25:21 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Huh
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2021, 12:26:29 AM »

Sorry, Sinema and Manchin go nope (and thank god for them).
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2021, 12:27:48 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Huh

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2021, 12:29:33 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Huh

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willingly to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Susan Collins, I expect, will be the one person in America vociferously denying that Roe has actually been overturned. Or perhaps maybe her and Brett Kavanaugh, idk.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2021, 12:34:25 AM »

Nope and thank god to Susan Collins and Rick Scott for winning their races as they are the ones preventing it from happening
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2021, 12:41:46 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Huh

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Just because she's pro-choice doesn't mean she'd let a Democratic president pack the court.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2021, 01:23:13 AM »

No, Ryan and Jackson aren't for Crt packing Ryan told Pelosi to withdraw the Bill only if there is an unusual situation if Crt disallow DC Statehood in a 54(46 Senate will it be Cet packed, D's are sidestepping the issue, due to fact a Supermajority Crt will Federalize LGBT issues

Even if there was Crt packing D's support 11 not 13 judges and Roberts whom is against LGBT issues would consider reversing Citizens United


Bennet, Durbin, Feinstein, Jackson, Ryan, Tester, Sinema and Manchin said NO, but aren't gonna rule out 11 but never 13
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2021, 01:27:23 AM »

Nope and thank god to Susan Collins and Rick Scott for winning their races as they are the ones preventing it from happening

You guys better do well in 2022.  If Dems gain senate seats this disgraceful power grab from the party of the 46% is going to come to a very unfortunate end no matter how much Lindsey Graham hisses and scowls. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2021, 01:28:34 AM »

Only if you want 900 judges instead of 9
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2021, 01:47:46 AM »

Manchin is pro-life, which leaves the best-case at 49. I do wonder though, if the filibuster were eliminated, whether Murkowski and Collins would walk the talk and cast the deciding votes for federal abortion rights protections. The filibuster won't be eliminated this Congress, and so either it is later and Democrats don't need Republican votes for abortion rights or more likely, Congress fails again.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2021, 01:47:53 AM »

Nope and thank god to Susan Collins and Rick Scott for winning their races as they are the ones preventing it from happening

You guys better do well in 2022.  If Dems gain senate seats this disgraceful power grab from the party of the 46% is going to come to a very unfortunate end no matter how much Lindsey Graham hisses and scowls. 


It’s not like you guys will have control of the house after the  2022 midterms so it doesn’t matter if you make gains in the senate or not
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2021, 01:50:27 AM »

Not a chance.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2021, 02:30:59 AM »

We're not going to see any structural changes to any branch of the federal government, or number of states for that matter, during this Congress.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2021, 02:33:07 AM »

Court packing will only be realistically on the table when Dems have a 60-seat Senate majority, and their incompetence has made sure this will never happen in any of our lifetimes.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2021, 02:35:06 AM »

Brian Sandoval was rejected he has moved from politics and D's didn't want him anyway due to his support for Citizens United


Why do Ds want Brian Sandoval he is another Kennedy whom would keep Citizens United in place, we need 2 judges to overturn an y if it's 11 judges and that's only if D's get more than 52 votes and keep the House
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2021, 03:48:21 AM »

Manchin and Sinema aren’t going to budge.

It won’t happen.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2021, 03:49:53 AM »

No. Like the filibuster, the court is a great excuse elected Democrats can hide behind when failing to fulfil their promises that would hurt the ruling class.

Too many of them aren’t interested in governing.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2021, 03:52:36 AM »

Two things
First, they can’t even get everyone to agree to kill the McConnell veto. A majority that doesn’t think a majority should govern isn’t going to do it.
Secondly, a Kennedy-type aggressively pursuing the war on civil rights and effective government on behalf of fed soc benefactors but sometimes throws a bone to wealthy cultural ‘liberals’ isn’t exactly a step up long run, effectively you are keeping the drive for neo-feudalism by judicial fiat alive while calming idiots who think the SC is court of gay stuff and abortion. When you throw in keeping John Roberts in charge, it’s not even worth doing.
4 Sotomayors or nothing. And nothing looks likely.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2021, 06:55:37 AM »

You gotta think even people like Sinema and Collins might agree to add 2 justices if one of them is a pro-choice moderate/conservative (think Brian Sandoval or someone like that). There's no filibustering on Supreme Court justices, Biden would just need 50 votes.

I think he probably doesn't have 50 but it's suddenly moved from implausible to plausible today.

Huh

Susan Collins of Maine, pro choice Republican. Obviously she doesn't want 2 free liberals added, but I think she wants Roe protected and would be willing to move from a 6-3 conservative, 5-4 anti-abortion majority to a 7-4 conservative, 6-5 pro-abortion rights majority.

Just because she's pro-choice doesn't mean she'd let a Democratic president pack the court.

Is it really even "packing" if he adds 1 liberal and 1 pro-choice conservative though?
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2021, 07:23:54 AM »

Nope and thank god to Susan Collins and Rick Scott for winning their races as they are the ones preventing it from happening

You guys better do well in 2022.  If Dems gain senate seats this disgraceful power grab from the party of the 46% is going to come to a very unfortunate end no matter how much Lindsey Graham hisses and scowls. 


It’s not like you guys will have control of the house after the  2022 midterms so it doesn’t matter if you make gains in the senate or not

You can't definitively say that, especially now that it looks like abortion will be the #1 issue of the midterms.
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2021, 07:33:10 AM »

Red states could legalize death by fire squad for those that provide abortion services and Manchin and Sinema wouldn't blink
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2021, 07:39:47 AM »

Nope and thank god to Susan Collins and Rick Scott for winning their races as they are the ones preventing it from happening

You guys better do well in 2022.  If Dems gain senate seats this disgraceful power grab from the party of the 46% is going to come to a very unfortunate end no matter how much Lindsey Graham hisses and scowls. 


It’s not like you guys will have control of the house after the  2022 midterms so it doesn’t matter if you make gains in the senate or not

You can't definitively say that, especially now that it looks like abortion will be the #1 issue of the midterms.

It will be because BLK and Brown Arabs, Latinos, Asians and Females are our base but Biden got 80M and Trump overperformed before the Insurrectionists, now that insurrection has happen Minorities including women will vote D

Abortion isn't the number 1 issue urban poverty is 77% of Homeland and prison population are dominated by Arab, Latinos and BLK men and there are single moms, we HAVE CONDOMS, BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AND ADOPTION
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2021, 07:43:23 AM »

Manchin and Sinema aren’t going to budge.

It won’t happen.
Are you going to expel them from the Democratic Party for that? This is why I am a Independent voter.
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