Is it offensive to say "The Taliban need Jesus Christ"?
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« on: August 23, 2021, 01:01:59 PM »

I've seen some people in progressive Christian circles say that and talk about how if they followed Jesus they wouldn't commit their atrocities.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2021, 01:26:01 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2021, 03:02:49 PM »

This is obviously not offensive, but it's not an interesting thing to say in most contexts because anyone who would assert that the Taliban needs Jesus Christ would also assert that everyone needs Jesus Christ. There is nothing particular about the Taliban here.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2021, 03:12:20 PM »

No more offensive than saying "Christians need Ayn Rand," although I'm not enough of a pigheaded egomaniac to go around saying something like that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2021, 08:52:09 PM »

I would find offensive persistent and vexatious proselytising to people who clearly have their own held convictions. I don't think an offhand phrase counts.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2021, 08:54:23 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2021, 01:08:00 AM by Kingpoleon »

No more offensive than saying "Christians need Ayn Rand," although I'm not enough of a pigheaded egomaniac to go around saying something like that.
You have to choose between admiring Objectivism and despising egomaniacs, pal.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2021, 08:58:21 PM »

No more offensive than saying "Christians need Ayn Rand," although I'm not enough of a pigheaded egomaniac to go around saying something like that.
You’re to have to choose between admiring Objectivism and despising egomaniacs, pal.

And "you're to have to choose" between making quippy one-liners and not proofreading your posts before you publish them.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2021, 11:59:46 PM »

If the Taliban were Christians, Afghanistan would currently be a global tourism center.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2021, 09:05:20 AM »

It's as edgy as saying they need to 'become atheist' which no doubt you'd be making a post about how cringe that was.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2021, 09:24:18 AM »

There's no real reason to think of it as potentially offensive in an objective sense, just a little odd and a little embarrassing. Except under certainly highly specific circumstances at which point it would instead best be described as 'suicidally brave'.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2021, 11:01:15 AM »

It's as edgy as saying they need to 'become atheist' which no doubt you'd be making a post about how cringe that was.
I’d push back a bit here and agree with someone like John Gray that evangelizing the “Good News” of atheism is rather like sleeping vigorously: it’s intrinsically nonsensical.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2021, 12:10:59 PM »

The KKK are Christians and they kill people.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2021, 12:14:32 PM »

If the Taliban were Christians, Afghanistan would currently be a global tourism center.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2021, 10:54:32 PM »

Of course not.  The same would apply to every person walking the face of the Earth.

Also, I don't see why it would be unique to progressive Christianity to say that people need Christ; if anything, that reads like a traditionally conservative evangelical view.
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2021, 08:43:00 AM »

Yes, implying that they need to convert to Christianity in order to stop being violent is offensive.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2021, 08:45:54 AM »

I don’t know if it’s offensive so much as profoundly stupid to the point of meaninglessness.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2021, 10:27:34 AM »

BRTD and the Progressive Christians he interacts with take the Bible way more seriously than the ones I interact with.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2021, 06:14:33 PM »

If they had Jesus Christ, they would get the wrong one, similar to the one that Ugandans that kill gay people have.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2021, 10:53:23 PM »

I voted yes.  To me, it sounds like a person who says it is effectively implying that the Taliban are members of an "incorrect" religion--Islam--and need to abandon it for the correct one--Christianity.  And I find that offensive. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2021, 11:20:07 PM »

I mean, it will offend some people.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2021, 12:16:44 PM »

I voted yes.  To me, it sounds like a person who says it is effectively implying that the Taliban are members of an "incorrect" religion--Islam--and need to abandon it for the correct one--Christianity.  And I find that offensive. 

By definition, there can only be one correct religion.  Along those lines, it would seem illogical to follow one that you do not believe to be the only true religion.  And, that makes every other religion an incorrect one.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2021, 12:50:58 PM »

I voted yes.  To me, it sounds like a person who says it is effectively implying that the Taliban are members of an "incorrect" religion--Islam--and need to abandon it for the correct one--Christianity.  And I find that offensive. 

By definition, there can only be one correct religion.  Along those lines, it would seem illogical to follow one that you do not believe to be the only true religion.  And, that makes every other religion an incorrect one.

But to me the offensive part isn't simply believing that Christianity is the correct religion.  It's the implication that members of another religion--in this case, the Taliban--need to adopt that point of view. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2021, 02:27:08 PM »

Just about everything offends some people though. A lot of people on Twitter were triggered and believed that something deeply racist and offensive was posted in regards to....this.


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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2021, 02:37:18 PM »

Just about everything offends some people though. A lot of people on Twitter were triggered and believed that something deeply racist and offensive was posted in regards to....this.



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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2021, 02:42:46 PM »

I voted yes.  To me, it sounds like a person who says it is effectively implying that the Taliban are members of an "incorrect" religion--Islam--and need to abandon it for the correct one--Christianity.  And I find that offensive. 

By definition, there can only be one correct religion.  Along those lines, it would seem illogical to follow one that you do not believe to be the only true religion.  And, that makes every other religion an incorrect one.

So if a person were to say that they agree with the morals of Christianity, but they "don't give a f**k" about scripture and are fine with it if people arrive at those morals through other faiths, would you consider that person a Christian?
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