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« on: August 18, 2021, 03:29:34 PM »

Would you say Trump or someone like Andrew Jackson or William McKinley?
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2021, 03:37:42 PM »

Wasn't Grover Cleveland a rapist?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2021, 03:52:59 PM »

Trump is far and away the most evil President ever.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2021, 04:48:39 PM »

Intentional evil?  Probably Andrew Jackson.  His low points were very low and he had no qualms about slaughtering his enemies.

Unintentional evil by virtue of incompetence?  James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2021, 04:54:13 PM »

James Buchanan
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2021, 04:55:13 PM »

Donald Trump
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2021, 05:01:36 PM »

1. Trump
2. Jackson
3. Nixon
4. Polk
5. Wilson
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2021, 11:31:41 PM »

Donald Trump
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2021, 12:31:20 PM »

Wilson was the worst over all, meanwhile Reagan is the most underratedly evil.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2021, 07:58:53 PM »

Regarding deliberate evil, Jackson; the impacts of their incompetence, Buchanan; & the impacts of their stupidity, Trump.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 09:01:46 PM »

The most personally repellent and despicable was either Cleveland or Trump, hands down. The most evil in terms of his actions as President having actively and consistently immoral motivations was, in my view, Buchanan; in a way, attributing his failures to incompetence or stupidity is letting him off too easy.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2021, 01:34:44 AM »

George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan

None of the 19th century presidents had access to evil on the global scale as they did. And quite frankly, most were downright idle, rather than active evils as these two men were
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2021, 07:27:04 PM »

Wilson was the worst over all, meanwhile Reagan is the most underratedly evil.
The whole trajectory of the 20th Century could (would?) have been different if TR was President instead of Wilson. Would the US entering the War earlier (presumably after the Lusitania is sunk in May 1915) have prevented the collapse of Russia's war effort and subsequent Bolshevik revolution?
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2021, 07:33:28 PM »

Intentional evil?  Probably Andrew Jackson.  His low points were very low and he had no qualms about slaughtering his enemies.

Unintentional evil by virtue of incompetence?  James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson

Buchanan was clumsy and came into the presidency at the wrong time, so he was pitiful/exusable, but Johnson was just plain bad. He blatantly opposed giving freed African-Americans basic rights like voting. He was not "uninentionally evil." I'd say the two most uninentionally evil presidents were the two northern Democrats who directly preceded Lincoln and who had cool last names - Pierce and Buchanan.

But I agree with you on Jackson. He was just evil, and most likely worse than Trump. There are more than enough examples - him slaughtering Native Americans and British soldiers in the late 1810s, the Indian Removal Act in the 1830s, and much more. What's interesting is that they both had similar base voters - poorly educated, lower class white men in rural areas.
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2021, 12:49:03 AM »

I believe Clinton was, after all these yrs he put his wife Electoral prospects above the D party and she won the Senate race but lost the Prez twice

Clinton scared Andrew Cuomo for life as HUD SECRETARY AND CIST US 5 SCOTUS JUDGES PLUS CJ, had Clinton resigned like Cuomo, Gore would of been the incumbent, the sighing in the debate wouldn't have mattered because he would be Commander in Chief and the states that Nadar cost Gore the Election OH, NV, NH, FL and even TN would have went to Gore as the incumbent
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2021, 03:05:19 PM »

Lyndon Johnson
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2021, 10:43:37 AM »


Why was Johnson "evil"?
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2021, 11:43:44 AM »

Andrew Jackson and Donald Trump are tied. Andrew Johnson a close 2nd.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2021, 12:05:59 PM »

That guy who did the thing.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2021, 05:08:42 PM »


LBJ was admittedly a repellent character on a personal level--constant infidelity (including a cavalier attitude towards sexual consent), unkindness to animals, almost-indisputable engagement in election fraud in his Senate primary against the ideologically far worse Coke Stevenson, at least some degree of personal racism despite his antiracist policies as President.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2021, 05:11:12 PM »

The two Presidents who actively committed treason while in office (Buchanan and Trump).
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2021, 05:21:33 PM »

Trump. He literally let 637,000+ (and counting) Americans die, whereas if he'd locked us down early and often, we'd be like New Zealand and live normal lives since May of 2020.
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2021, 06:22:10 PM »

A lot of them were, but that's up to what you define as truly "evil".

Donald Trump was the biggest egomaniac nutball to ever serve as President and I'm sure he's the President who needed the most time in the Padded Party Room.
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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2021, 08:37:12 PM »


LBJ was admittedly a repellent character on a personal level--constant infidelity (including a cavalier attitude towards sexual consent), unkindness to animals, almost-indisputable engagement in election fraud in his Senate primary against the ideologically far worse Coke Stevenson, at least some degree of personal racism despite his antiracist policies as President.

I haven't heard about this before, what did he do?
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2021, 10:49:23 PM »


LBJ was admittedly a repellent character on a personal level--constant infidelity (including a cavalier attitude towards sexual consent), unkindness to animals, almost-indisputable engagement in election fraud in his Senate primary against the ideologically far worse Coke Stevenson, at least some degree of personal racism despite his antiracist policies as President.

I find your critique here very biased.  Fraud in elections was commonplace in Texas (and other places) at that time.  Given what he did for civil rights, to criticize him for "at least some degree of personal racism" seems incredibly ungenerous--particularly given that whatever racism he had was most likely either less or, at the very least, no worse than most whites of his region and generation.  It's true that Johnson was a hunter, and I've always considered that his worst trait.  As far as infidelity--it's up to each person who's married/engaged/in a relationship to decide whether to be faithful or not.  As long as whoever they have sex with is a consenting adult, I don't take issue with it.  I would like to know what you mean by "a cavalier attitude toward sexual consent," though.


While Johnson could be a very difficult man--very demanding to his staff (as well as his wife), prone to  what George Reedy called "fantastic rages," and at times very crude (he urinated on one of his Secret Service agents at one point), he also had very positive qualities as well.  As Reedy also said, he could be a "big, magnificent, inspiring leader."  He had a colorful sense of humor and genuinely cared about others, both those who were around him and, on a larger scale, those who were disadvantaged--particularly African Americans and other minorities, and those living in poverty.  He was extremely intelligent as well. 
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