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« on: August 16, 2021, 08:49:43 PM »
How would Biden do against Bush and Perot?
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2021, 01:22:15 AM »

President George Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) / Fmr. Governor Jim Blanchard (D-MI) ✓
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX) / Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL)

Biden would be pretty comparable to Clinton as a youthful moderate, and although he would still appear labor-friendly, his vote for NAFTA would still give Perot an opening. Not sure if his 1988 aneurysm would raise concerns over his health, but probably not.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2021, 01:27:45 AM »
Quote from: Anaphoric-Statism on August 17, 2021, 01:22:15 AM

President George Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) / Fmr. Governor Jim Blanchard (D-MI) ✓
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX) / Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL)

Biden would be pretty comparable to Clinton as a youthful moderate, and although he would still appear labor-friendly, his vote for NAFTA would still give Perot an opening. Not sure if his 1988 aneurysm would raise concerns over his health, but probably not.
NAFTA wasn’t voted on until 1993.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2021, 01:31:59 AM »

Easy to forget since NAFTA was a big topic in the 1992 election. Was Biden's position clear at that time?
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2021, 07:37:58 AM »
I don’t think Biden ever commented on it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2021, 12:11:05 PM »
Quote from: darklordoftech on August 17, 2021, 07:37:58 AM
I don’t think Biden ever commented on it.

If he isn't explicitly for it, that could take a lot of wind out of Perot's sail.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2021, 08:07:53 PM »
« Edited: August 18, 2021, 11:15:45 PM by Christian Man »
The plagerism scandal of the '88 would've hurt him and most of those voters would've gone to Perot, giving Bush the upper hand, but '92 Biden was very similar to Clinton, other than Biden being pro-life. I'm not sure if Clinton ran on a pro-life platform, but he vetoed a partial-birth abortion ban while president, so at least he governed as someone who was pro-choice. However Biden seems like someone who would do better with senior citizens in Florida, especially considering he was from a Northeastern state.



Senator Joe Biden/Governor Bill Clinton
President George H.W. Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2021, 09:45:22 PM »
Biden would have lost the entire South and the entire Mountain West.  Ohio and Missouri would have been crucial.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2021, 09:48:40 PM »
Probably doesn't win most of the Southern states Clinton won, but still wins comfortably. Anaphoric-Statism's map doesn't look too far off.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2021, 12:02:48 AM »
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I think he still picks Gore as VP so he wins TN
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 12:06:21 AM »
Quote from: Old School Republican on August 19, 2021, 12:02:48 AM
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I think he still picks Gore as VP so he wins TN

Why would Biden lose Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire?
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2021, 12:08:44 AM »
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Quote from: Old School Republican on August 19, 2021, 12:02:48 AM
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I think he still picks Gore as VP so he wins TN

Why would Biden lose Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire?

Biden's a worse fit for the West than Clinton plus NH is a state Clinton barely won and Clinton is a much better campaigner than Biden so I have it to HW.
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