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« on: August 11, 2021, 08:59:14 AM »
« edited: August 11, 2021, 11:12:26 PM by Coolidge 2024 »

What state is the first that pops into your mind when you think of the word “suburbs”?

Off the top of my head:

Virginia

New Jersey

Ohio

Utah

California

Arizona

Nevada

Florida

Texas

Georgia

Colorado
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2021, 09:33:18 AM »

NJ: the entire state is highways leading to cities in other states
CA: most of its cities are lines drawn around suburbs, and there is also major sprawl
VA (maybe): its population is increasingly dominated by NOVA, and its other cities also tend suburban

Although I wouldnt put OH in the top 3, I would add it to the list since it has tons of cities that are pretty suburban.

I would probably take RI out of the list since Providence feels like a real city, though small. To a lesser degree, I'd get rid of CT too since Hartford and New Haven feel like cities.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2021, 11:12:12 PM »

NJ: the entire state is highways leading to cities in other states
CA: most of its cities are lines drawn around suburbs, and there is also major sprawl
VA (maybe): its population is increasingly dominated by NOVA, and its other cities also tend suburban

Although I wouldnt put OH in the top 3, I would add it to the list since it has tons of cities that are pretty suburban.

I would probably take RI out of the list since Providence feels like a real city, though small. To a lesser degree, I'd get rid of CT too since Hartford and New Haven feel like cities.


Ohio is pretty suburban too. You’re right.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2021, 03:30:26 AM »

Florida, the entire state is full of metro areas with big suburban areas, basically the entire population lives in low to medium density urban dwellings mostly of a suburban nature, it is one of the most urbanized states as a result, it is the quintessential suburban state in my view.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2021, 08:00:57 AM »

New Jersey, of course.
Northern NJ: suburbs of NYC
Southern NJ: suburbs of Philly
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 02:09:52 PM »

Florida, the entire state is full of metro areas with big suburban areas, basically the entire population lives in low to medium density urban dwellings mostly of a suburban nature, it is one of the most urbanized states as a result, it is the quintessential suburban state in my view.

People always talk about the suburbs trending left, but the entire state of Florida is a giant exception to that trend (outside of Jacksonville and parts of Orlando).
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 05:50:03 PM »

Maybe Oklahoma?
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2021, 06:41:03 PM »

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Maryland.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 10:05:46 PM »

What about Connecticut or Rhode Island? Seems like they could qualify for suburban NYC/Boston respectively.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2021, 01:26:27 PM »


Oklahoma is a rather rural state with two metro areas. I’m not sure that it counts as suburban at all.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2021, 01:27:13 PM »

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Maryland.

Definitely could qualify as one! The state is essentially Baltimore, some exurbs, and the DC suburbs.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2021, 01:28:07 PM »


Oklahoma is a rather rural state with two metro areas. I’m not sure that it counts as suburban at all.

Maybe, but the OKC and Tulsa metros are pretty suburban in character. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 01:34:55 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2021, 02:27:43 PM by Coolidge 2024 »

Speaking of Oklahoma- I think nearby Texas is a better candidate for a “quintessential suburban state”, in all honesty.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2021, 02:01:45 PM »

OK, OK is a bit more rural than I thought.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 02:51:54 PM »

How would you characterize states like Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Connecticut, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania?

I would say that Missouri, Ohio, and Indiana were suburban but are now exurban or even rural as the power of the cities have declined.  Pennsylvania appears that it could be "suburban" in the future.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2021, 04:13:48 PM »

How would you characterize states like Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Connecticut, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania?

I would say that Missouri, Ohio, and Indiana were suburban but are now exurban or even rural as the power of the cities have declined.  Pennsylvania appears that it could be "suburban" in the future.

Missouri: Primarily Rural

Ohio/Indiana: 30% Urban/Suburban, 70% rural

Oregon/WA: Very urban/suburban

Nevada: Extremely suburban

Connecticut: See Nevada

North Carolina: Has everything. Metros with urban centers and many suburbs, rurals, and tons of exurbs too

I’m not too sure about the 3 rust belt states, tbh.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2021, 08:04:23 PM »

I don't think of states with big cities in them as suburban states even if they also have suburbs, because I think of them as big city states.  For instance: New York is dominated by its big city even though there are suburban areas like Westchester.  California is dominated by big cities too, even though LA is kind of urban/suburban sprawl.

In terms of quintessential "suburban states" I think of states that are dominated by the suburbs:

Connecticut
New Jersey
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina

States that have pretty large cities but still feel more suburban than urban:

Georgia
Washington
Colorado
Arizona
Minnesota
Massachusetts
Texas

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2021, 11:55:36 AM »

I don't think it's right to call North Carolina or Ohio suburban states--they are states dominated by mid-sized and small cities and large towns, rather than states dominated by vast suburbia like New Jersey or Connecticut. A place like Goldsboro or Lima is pretty different from Somerset County.

I don't think it's as suburban as the quintessential Northeastern examples, but quite a massive section of Kansas's population is located in suburban Kansas City.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2021, 06:52:51 PM »

Illinois. The North Side of Chicago is suburban in character even if the South Side isn't. The suburbs of Chicago are growing rapidly, and they have more votes than rural Illinois.

Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah... I say "Michigan", and you first think of Detroit and such urban dumps as Pontiac, Flint, and Saginaw... it has some wide-open spaces north of Muskegon and Bay City, but the rest is suburban in character, except perhaps for Battle Creek, if it isn't rural. Detroit suburbs have more people than does Detroit. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2021, 08:55:42 AM »

Rhode Island?
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2021, 11:52:45 AM »

Illinois. The North Side of Chicago is suburban in character even if the South Side isn't. The suburbs of Chicago are growing rapidly, and they have more votes than rural Illinois. 

lmfao I guess this post is the logical inverse of white people calling Black people "urban"
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2021, 04:05:44 PM »

What state is the first that pops into your mind when you think of the word “suburbs”?

Off the top of my head:

Virginia

New Jersey

Ohio

Utah

California

Arizona

Nevada

Florida

Texas

Georgia

Colorado

NV is more urban than suburban, I'd say. Aside from  Las Vegas, Carson City and Reno are pretty urban, and neither of them has populous suburbs or anything.
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