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Question: Would Pat Toomey have won re-election in PA if his seat was up in 2020?
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Author Topic: Would Pat Toomney have been re-elected if he was up in 2020?  (Read 665 times)
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« on: July 29, 2021, 02:35:09 PM »
« edited: July 29, 2021, 02:52:03 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

No, he ran against Kate McGinty instead of Sestak and was reelected in a Hillary cycle the only one that can lose MI,vPA and WI narrowly to Gary Johnson

We have enough recruiting so we never have another McGinty debacle
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2021, 06:10:25 PM »

How does Snowlabrador get that Toomey would win and Biden carried PA
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2021, 12:03:39 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2021, 12:08:29 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

150%

Joe Biden was literally signaling to suburban Philly Repubs that they could vote for him and a GOP Congress, and they did. Toomey would have won by 3 minimum.
Biden won the state, Biden overperformed Hillary's margin in Western Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh and Eerie County

No, if Fetterman or Shapiro or Lamb ran they would have won there are differences between Federal races and statewide races just like Tim Ryan has a great chance of beating JD Vance  or Mandel it's a Federal race and the Gov race is a statewide race Whaley is a bad candidate

Rs underestimate Brown and the state split it's votes for Gov and Senate on 2018 and the Generic ballot is plus 7 like it was in 2018

The Rs will do very well in Statewide races in OH, but Ryan can be the lone Blue collar Candidate to win, a Federal race
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 88,694
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2021, 03:06:39 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2021, 03:11:49 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

I think he'd be about 50/50, but I'd probably very slightly lean towards him losing, in part because PA Dems have a pretty decent bench. One data point worth considering is that Toomey ran ~0.6 points ahead of Trump in 2016, and Biden won PA by a point in 2020 (although direct comparisons aren't perfect because of different levels of third party voting).

Just quickly eye-balling the 2020 results in the PA suburbs, it looks the only district where congressional Republicans really ran ahead of Trump was in PA-1, where Fitzpatrick got 56.5% compared to Trump's 46.6%. As a PA suburbanite, my personal hope is that the type of voter who voted Biden/Fizpatrick would have realized that Toomey, unlike Fitzpatrick, is basically an average congressional Republican in terms of ideology (notwithstanding Toomey's occasionally centrist positions on social issues).

Doesn't make sense if Biden won Error county and Pittsburgh suburbs by more than Hillary did, don't you realize in split voting again Shapiro, Fetterman or Lamb would have ran ahead of Biden in Western PA, just because House Rs won the Congressional ballot means zilch when it comes to Pennsylvania Senate race, Toomey almost lost to Kate McGinty if we ran Sestak he would have lost

It does not matter anyways because Rs are gonna win WI, GA, AZ, OH, IA, AK, NC NV Senate races

What do users not understand Biden, Bernie or Booker isn't Hillary, that's why Rs haven't won a single cycle since 2016, Hillary was under a Russian cyber attack, if McCain was still here, here, he spoke out against Trump cyber attack against Hillary. Trump made sure he won, they stacked the Crts, eventhough the Crt gave Biden the Election with ultra Conservative, abd D's still think Toomey would have won, plse
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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Posts: 88,694
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2021, 03:35:06 PM »

Yeah and Biden didn't win Series county and Pittsburgh suburbs more than Hillary Clinton did, Kate KcGonty lost Pittsburg and Eerie County just like Hillary Clinton did, Lamb, Shapiro and Fetterman why they are gonna win this yr are doing well like Biden did in Western PA
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