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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2021, 04:39:59 PM »

Norcross is a Reagan Democrat.

I admire Norcross's political skills, but he should pass the torch of the South Jersey Democratic Party to someone else.

He is the face of corruption, and I believe he is a Mar-a-Lago member and a friend of Donald Trump.

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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2023, 07:40:04 PM »



Not a chance he wins a statewide primary
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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2023, 07:40:54 PM »

I hope he runs because it will get him out of the House
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« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2023, 07:42:20 PM »

id like to see Shelia Oliver run.
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2023, 08:02:28 PM »

I hope he runs because it will get him out of the House

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a different representative, especially now that my district much more Democratic.

But isn't Steve Fulop considering running already? I don't see how he doesn't become the favorite in the primary.

As for the general election, it's probably going to depend on who is in the White House, unless Ciatarelli's next run ends up in a Stacey Abrams or Bob Stefanowski situation.
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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2023, 08:17:51 PM »

I hope he runs because it will get him out of the House

NJ Gov is one of the few statewide offices in the country that someone can run for without automatically giving up their house seat because the election occurs in off years. He would announce right after the 2024 election and just keep his house seat if he loses.
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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2023, 08:32:55 PM »

Josh Gottheimer is unbelievably based so this is good.

Probably a ~25% chance he loses to Ciattarelli though.
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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2023, 08:50:15 PM »

He doesn't have enough black base support to win

Sweeney does, and Sweeney will eliminate a lot of useless municipalities that drive up property taxes

Lean D

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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2023, 08:55:22 PM »

He doesn't have enough black base support to win

Sweeney does, and Sweeney will eliminate a lot of useless municipalities that drive up property taxes

Lean D



Sweeney plans to eliminate municipalities? Could be useful in Camden and Bergen counties but that’s a bold idea.
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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2023, 09:00:11 PM »

He doesn't have enough black base support to win

Sweeney does, and Sweeney will eliminate a lot of useless municipalities that drive up property taxes

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Sweeney plans to eliminate municipalities? Could be useful in Camden and Bergen counties but that’s a bold idea.

He has been pushing this since he was Senate President but Christie and Murphy backtracked from their campaign promises.

Could be useful in all 21 counties. Especially Bergen, Monmouth, Middlesex and Morris.
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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2023, 09:04:34 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2023, 09:08:23 PM by KaiserDave »

Hopefully he gets bodied by some machine apparichnik in the primary and is out of the House as well (oh wait…). Far and away the worst house Dem with Cuellar behind him.
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« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2023, 09:11:09 PM »

He doesn't have enough black base support to win

Sweeney does, and Sweeney will eliminate a lot of useless municipalities that drive up property taxes

Lean D



Sweeney plans to eliminate municipalities? Could be useful in Camden and Bergen counties but that’s a bold idea.

He has been pushing this since he was Senate President but Christie and Murphy backtracked from their campaign promises.

Could be useful in all 21 counties. Especially Bergen, Monmouth, Middlesex and Morris.

Middlesex isn’t that bad in terms of it. It has a few small towns, but not like the thousand person type towns in Camden Bergen Monmouth.
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« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2023, 09:33:44 PM »

I'd like to see him become governor.

Lets shrink down that Blue Dog Coalition to zero.
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« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2023, 11:25:51 PM »

Josh Gottheimer is unbelievably based so this is good.

Probably a ~25% chance he loses to Ciattarelli though.

I'd rather he stay in Congress honestly. I haven't decided how I'm voting yet, but I'm open to many different options. Ciattarelli is terrible and only moderate in name, so I hope he loses.
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« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2023, 12:36:54 AM »

God please no. I doubt he'd win a primary but like please don't make me vote for this guy.
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« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2023, 02:35:21 AM »

I hope he runs because it will get him out of the House

NJ Gov is one of the few statewide offices in the country that someone can run for without automatically giving up their house seat because the election occurs in off years. He would announce right after the 2024 election and just keep his house seat if he loses.

hope he *wins, i meant
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« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2023, 01:48:53 PM »

He’s eyeing a run for governor? Josh Gottheimer should keep his eyeball to himself for his own sake.

But in seriousness, what do Democrats have against him as a congressman?
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« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2023, 02:26:14 PM »

I hereby endorse bronz for governor.
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« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2023, 11:33:25 PM »

But in seriousness, what do Democrats have against him as a congressman?

He's one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress. I live in his district, and while an AOC type would definitely lose, he can definitely afford to be more progressive than he is now.
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« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2023, 10:05:07 AM »

But in seriousness, what do Democrats have against him as a congressman?

He's one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress. I live in his district, and while an AOC type would definitely lose, he can definitely afford to be more progressive than he is now.


So basically he’s the Joe Manchin of the House? Bleugh.
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« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2023, 10:31:52 AM »

I would run as an Independent. NJ is too party entrenched
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« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2023, 01:32:38 PM »

Smart. He has no chance of winning a Senate race, and he has an enormous amount of cash on hand for a guy in a newly Likely D district.

Being a moderate in a House seat makes you a pain in the ass to leadership. Being a moderate in the Governor's race makes you a problem solver. He'll have to get past Fulop and Oliver, but Fulop has his own liabilities and Oliver's kept a low profile. Endorsed.
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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2023, 01:46:26 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2023, 02:10:39 PM by Torie »

Smart. He has no chance of winning a Senate race, and he has an enormous amount of cash on hand for a guy in a newly Likely D district.

Being a moderate in a House seat makes you a pain in the ass to leadership. Being a moderate in the Governor's race makes you a problem solver. He'll have to get past Fulop and Oliver, but Fulop has his own liabilities and Oliver's kept a low profile. Endorsed.


What are Fulop's issues, other than his wife making a million off having the right connections from baiting and switching and flipping in a intricate minuet with minority front persons one of three pot dispensaries that will be legal in Hoboken, that caused the local councilwoman in this chic NE corner or town to freak out, and actually start sobbing right on camera captured by zoom, saying it was going to drive her to toke that evening? (The pot shop will be across the street from the most expensive condo building in Hoboken in which she lives in a double unit with a forever view of Midtown Manhattan - even better than the one in my signature that is from the south end of town near our digs).

I must say JC is booming with new high rise construction in and around the drab DMV facility that I had the distinct displeasure of visiting (the only one in the state without parking, and far away from a PATH station).
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« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2023, 01:50:11 PM »

Smart. He has no chance of winning a Senate race, and he has an enormous amount of cash on hand for a guy in a newly Likely D district.

Being a moderate in a House seat makes you a pain in the ass to leadership. Being a moderate in the Governor's race makes you a problem solver. He'll have to get past Fulop and Oliver, but Fulop has his own liabilities and Oliver's kept a low profile. Endorsed.

Totally disagree, he is extremely influential in the House precisely because he is a pain in the ass to leadership. He has no way of winning the primary and will just embarrass himself.
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« Reply #74 on: January 31, 2023, 08:33:03 AM »



Not a chance he wins a statewide primary

I wouldn't be so sure. If there's a very crowded primary (which is entirely possible), gets the Bergen County line, and the Central and South Jersey Dems squabble, I could definitely see him squeaking by with 25-30% of the vote.

I don't want that to happen since I dislike him, but he could absolutely become Governor if a couple things go his way.
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