Facebook On Biden’s Vaccine Claims: They’re ‘Looking For Scapegoats For Missing Their Vaccine Goals’
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« on: July 17, 2021, 07:15:59 AM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/facebook-on-bidens-vaccine-claims-theyre-looking-for-scapegoats-for-missing-their-vaccine-goals

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Facebook responded to claims made by President Joe Biden and his administration this week that the social media platform was not doing enough to combat vaccine misinformation, saying that the administration was looking for “scapegoats” to blame after the administration failed to reach its vaccine goals.

When asked about his thoughts about misinformation on Facebook, Biden told a reporter, “They’re killing people.”

“The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and they’re killing people,” Biden added.

“We will not be distracted by accusations which aren’t supported by the facts,” Facebook said in response.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2021, 08:43:36 AM »

We desperately need a microchip system where an individual's entire health, immunization, and credit history can be instantly accessed via a simple fingerprint or retina scan.  

That french dude president has the right idea.  
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2021, 10:36:20 AM »

Facebook and Fox News have combined to cause about 50,000 easily-preventable deaths since the vaccine became widely available in April.

If they could just be responsible citizens and join in the chorus of telling people to get the vaccine, instead of actively spreading misinformation and anti-vax propaganda, those lives would have been saved.

I really hate Facebook and I hope Mark Zuckerberg hits a rock and drowns the next time he goes wakeboarding.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2021, 10:47:25 AM »

Imagine inculpating Facebook and Fox News for your own administration’s ineptitude. Regardless of how you feel about Facebook as a company, they are more than correct to point out that the Biden administration is looking for a scapegoat for their many lack of triumphs, including with vaccines so far.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 10:54:24 AM »

Remember that the root cause of all Republican lies about the vaccine is that Trump wants the pandemic to continue claiming lives so his presidency doesn't look so bad relative to Biden's.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2021, 11:02:54 AM »

Remember that the root cause of all Republican lies about the vaccine is that Trump wants the pandemic to continue claiming lives so his presidency doesn't look so bad relative to Biden's.


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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2021, 11:04:58 AM »

The medium is the message and I'm tired of pretending that it's not.

Anyway, is Biden saying that Facebook is killing people or that people spreading misinformation over social media are killing people? My direct reaction to that clip was closer to the latter, but it seems as though the former interpretation has spread because it is more provocative.

It also seems like Facebook was deliberately confrontational in its response to this as a deliberate distraction from Psaki's comments on the same day about the White House having a direct line to Facebook moderators.

I do believe that the WH does have a direct line to Facebook moderators, but I also believe that even Zuckerberg finds the Biden’s regime’s attempts to act as the moderator of Facebook to be overbearing.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2021, 11:29:37 AM »
« Edited: July 17, 2021, 11:33:38 AM by 7,052,770 »

Remember that the root cause of all Republican lies about the vaccine is that Trump wants the pandemic to continue claiming lives so his presidency doesn't look so bad relative to Biden's.


Probably reading one of your posts.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2021, 11:52:06 AM »
« Edited: July 17, 2021, 11:59:21 AM by GeneralMacArthur »

Imagine inculpating Facebook and Fox News for your own administration’s ineptitude. Regardless of how you feel about Facebook as a company, they are more than correct to point out that the Biden administration is looking for a scapegoat for their many lack of triumphs, including with vaccines so far.

Facebook is working directly against the administration's goals by actively facilitating the spread of misinformation and propaganda about the vaccine.  They're well aware that this misinformation and propaganda is not only false, but killing people who believe it.  But they refuse to do anything to stop it.  Despite repeatedly making moves in the past to prevent the spread of harmful or dangerous misinformation on their platform.  Facebook is the gun, and anti-vaxxers are pointing it at stupid people and pulling the trigger.  It doesn't have to be this way -- we've seen from Trump's ban that Facebook has enormous power to change the national conversation with a few simple actions -- but for some reason Facebook wants it to be this way.

This is like if some kid was being bullied by a bunch of other kids telling him to kill himself, the parents told Facebook, Facebook refused to do anything to block it, and then the kid did in fact kill himself.  Most of the blame lies with the bullies.  But part of the blame also lies with Facebook, because they had the power to save the kid but let him die.  Facebook understands this, which is why they have an official policy banning people from promoting suicide on the platform.  But with COVID vaccines, Facebook is basically pointing at the parent and saying "don't blame me for your failure to protect your child."
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2021, 02:39:32 PM »

Unvaccinated people (who are actively continuing to spread the virus) are in fact killing people, and anyone who spreads antivax sentiment is complicit--just look at what's going on in Missouri.

Were this being treated like the war that it actually is, facilitating messaging that helps the enemy (in this case the virus) kill more Americans would warrant charges of treason, and this is exactly what Facebook is doing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2021, 02:44:29 PM »

A lot of the anti-vaccine rhetoric is pushed for political reasons. Republicans want more people to die so they can blame Biden and have a talking point for the midterm election. If more people dead can get them more seats in Congress then they are all for it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2021, 02:56:24 PM »

A lot of the anti-vaccine rhetoric is pushed for political reasons. Republicans want more people to die so they can blame Biden and have a talking point for the midterm election. If more people dead can get them more seats in Congress then they are all for it.

The problem with that logic is most of those dying now are either Republicans or non voters.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2021, 02:59:23 PM »

A lot of the anti-vaccine rhetoric is pushed for political reasons. Republicans want more people to die so they can blame Biden and have a talking point for the midterm election. If more people dead can get them more seats in Congress then they are all for it.

The problem with that logic is most of those dying now are either Republicans or non voters.

That does beg the question, why aren't these people doing more to stop the spread given they're often the very same people espousing conspiracy theories that this is some bioweapon.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2021, 03:00:43 PM »

A lot of the anti-vaccine rhetoric is pushed for political reasons. Republicans want more people to die so they can blame Biden and have a talking point for the midterm election. If more people dead can get them more seats in Congress then they are all for it.
99% of those dying from covid are unvaccinated so it's not really partisan, just a more "play stupid games, win stupid prices" logic
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2021, 03:03:08 PM »

Facebook have form for getting very tetchy when politicians from all countries call them out on what is the basis of their profit.
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2021, 03:03:26 PM »

A lot of the anti-vaccine rhetoric is pushed for political reasons. Republicans want more people to die so they can blame Biden and have a talking point for the midterm election. If more people dead can get them more seats in Congress then they are all for it.

The problem with that logic is most of those dying now are either Republicans or non voters.

Yeah, but an extra 100,000 deaths (so let's assume 1/3 of them vote in the midterms, 80-20 Republican) could cost Republicans 20,000 of those votes, but the perception that Biden is doing a bad job at controlling COVID might flip more voters from Democrats to Republican.

Plus, it keeps Trump happy and not personally attacking the politicians and media personalities who might otherwise encourage vaccination.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2021, 03:44:57 PM »

Wrong answer to the wrong question. The fact is, wanting facebook is « nice » or not is somewhere between naive and irrelevant. Simply allowing an unaccountable private corporation to have so much power and influence over what information we have access to is a threat to democracy
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2021, 03:55:23 PM »

The people who are dying of coronavirus at this point had every opportunity to get the vaccine and made a conscious choice not to. Blaming a company for setting up a message board where people post things then blaming them for there being 150 million Americans who would rather die than be given a shot is insanity and make the Biden administration look juvenile and weak.

Frankly at this point if you die of coronavirus I have limited sympathy for you. You have been told for months and months to get the shot, please, for the good of those around you. And you responded with ‘fk everyone else it’s inconvenient for me to get the shot’.

I respect that it’s your right to think that but I’m not gonna weep for you if you get unlucky and suffer the consequences. If you do not get vaccinated you may well die of this disease, and you may well kill others who are also unvaccinated.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2021, 04:37:30 PM »

Wrong answer to the wrong question. The fact is, wanting facebook is « nice » or not is somewhere between naive and irrelevant. Simply allowing an unaccountable private corporation to have so much power and influence over what information we have access to is a threat to democracy

I don't care if they're "nice," but if they're going to host deadly disinformation on their website, I'm going to have an extremely negative opinion of them.
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