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« on: July 16, 2021, 08:06:11 PM »

I've seen arguments for the 80's and the mid 2010's, but I wasn't alive for the first and the second seems like it was confined to online.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2021, 10:50:20 PM »

In the 1980s, there was Family Ties and Republicans did well with 18-29-year-olds. In fact, Gingrich wanted to make it easier to vote. Apparently people who were 18-29 in the 1980s have remained the most Republican generation of all.

Right-wing politics definitely weren’t “cool” in the 2010s. In the 2010s right-wing politics were seen as the politics of rednecks voting against their interest and racist conspiracy theories and Obama was the “cool” candidate in 2008 and 2012. Being for same-sex marriage had become a litmus test for being “cool” in politics by the 2010s.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2021, 05:26:05 AM »

The Trump era Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2021, 09:54:44 AM »

Libertarianism during the early 2010s/late 2000s?
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 05:55:56 PM »

The 1980s with Reagan?

Libertarianism during the early 2010s/late 2000s?

Nah everyone except libertarians thought libertarians were a joke.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2021, 06:55:37 AM »

Smh, implying politics was ever cool
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2021, 12:41:42 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2021, 01:18:07 PM by Antarctic-Statism »

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, it wasn't okay to dissent if that counts. The flag-waving, "nuke the Middle East" mentality dominated until Iraq became unpopular and was definitely gone by 2006. But that was more akin to McCarthyism, where people were kept in line through fear.

The 1980s, after welfare states failed and the counterculture hit a wall but before the Cold War ended and third-way politics materialized, is a good answer. Pop culture at the time was pretty macho compared to what came before and after, too. But even then, the coolest choice for the Gen X kids was apathy. I wouldn't say the right-wing populism of the mid-2010s was popular with a majority of people (Trump didn't win the popular vote after all), it was more like a lot of people got disillusioned with the more center-right establishment and sat home. Early 2010s libertarianism was big, but never quite got to "cool" levels. Left-wing politics have been cool-ish since the later Bush years, but culture hasn't been able to reach a consensus because social media has allowed cliques to solidify IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2021, 03:58:19 PM »

Paulbots while the military-industrial complex and invasion of privacy were still large concerns. Some hailed from the more "South Park Republican" variety in general opposition to neocons.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2021, 04:40:37 PM »

Now?
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2021, 11:03:38 PM »
« Edited: July 19, 2021, 11:14:33 PM by HenryWallaceVP »

Here's who I think was perceived as "cool" and "uncool" in American politics since the 1960s:

1960s: When it was coolest to be left-wing. Young student activists and visionary idealists associated with the New Left defined political coolness in this period, while equally cool figures like Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg served as elder (over 30) statesmen for the political and social counterculture. That's not to say hippies were necessarily cool, but the college kids who protested the Vietnam War, smoked pot, listened to Jimi Hendrix, and spearheaded the Sexual Revolution definitely were.

1970s: Richard Nixon might be the most remarkably uncool person in American history, so anyone opposed to his administration was by comparison at least decently cool. After Watergate, when Americans lost faith in their government, it was cool to just not give a damn about politics anymore and spend all night at the disco high on Quaaludes.

1980s: When it was coolest to be right-wing. Ronnie Reagan brought the nation back from the brink and made us proud to be American again, feared abroad and respected at home. In the 80s, there was nothing cooler than the Red Dawn kids kicking some Commie and Russkie ass, while aspiring yuppies looked to Gordon Gekko's "Greed is good" Wall St. life as a source of inspiration. At the same time, the lives of real-life Gordon Gekkos like Donald Trump were glamorized in mainstream culture and the media. Meanwhile, Democrats were just a bunch of wimps, losers, and stiffs like Michael Dukakis, gloomy naysayers who fretted about the rising national debt instead of enjoying the great American comeback.

1990s: A masterclass in the co-option of cool. Bill Clinton took what was coolest about Ronald Reagan - charm, optimism, and new ideas - and brought them to the Democratic side. He played the saxophone, spoke to ordinary Americans about their pain, and reassured the nation that he was a "New Democrat"; not like the tired old ones. In so doing he won over half the nation, while the other half looked on bitterly at his electoral and economic successes. Their anger at Clinton ultimately culminated in his farcical impeachment by prurient ideologues and repressed sex-obsesseds, first among them Special Counsel Kenneth Starr, who was about as uncool a person as is humanly possible.

2000s: After 9/11, partisan politics were put aside as the nation rallied around the flag. Rudy Giuliani, the socially moderate NYC Mayor popular among members of both parties, was definitely one of the cooler politicians. Once the Iraq War became a quagmire, however, George W. Bush became very uncool, widely loathed at home and abroad. Barack Obama, on the other hand, effortlessly exuded coolness from the moment he began his presidential run in 2008. Not only was he way cooler than Bush and McCain, he was also so much cooler than his main primary opponent, the perennially uncool Hillary Clinton (unlike her husband). Libertarianism also had its moment in the sun at the end of the decade, as part of a spectrum-wide backlash against Bush-era neoconservatism.

2010s: Obama's cool sheen began to wear off early in the 2010s, but no matter what he would always be way cooler than his enemies, especially when organized into a group so utterly uncool as the Tea Party. In other words, when the main conservative opposition to your administration consists of a legion of Glenn Beck fans dressed in comically absurd Americana outfits, it's really no contest. Up-and-coming congressional conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Ted Cruz were equally, if not more, unlikable. Somewhat unexpectedly, the 2016 election saw young left-wing activism become the coolest it had been since the 1960s through the campaign of Bernie Sanders, one of the hippest campaigns of modern times, only to lose in the primary to the forever uncool Hillary Clinton. On the Republican side, nominee Donald Trump still perhaps had some lingering 1980s coolness here and there, but the supporters he attracted were not very cool types. The idea of a "Trump supporter", which emerged during and after 2016, was supremely uncool to anyone not among the converted. Disproportionately old, white, bigoted, and rural, to anyone but themselves the "Trump supporter" represented the least cool segment of American society. This perception only increased after the riot at the US capitol (2020s, but whatever), which made even many Republicans embarrassed and ashamed at what their party had become.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2021, 07:21:24 PM »

I think it depends on gender to a large degree, and there is the gender split.  For many young men right-wing politics has been cool most of the time since at least the 1980s. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2021, 05:23:10 AM »

PEPE DESTROYS SJWS!!!!!

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2021, 10:20:25 AM »

2014-2017 if you talk about online, definitely.

Before that, I'd say the early to mid 1990's with Rush Limbaugh. Honestly you can even extend that to the early-2000's with the Drudge report and so on.

Of course, you can always find subcultures where it is cool and it is cool in some ways.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2021, 05:22:15 PM »

The 80s, but that is slowly but surely changing as the right becomes more anti-establishment and the left becomes more pro-establishment.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 12:41:46 PM »


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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2021, 09:37:32 PM »

Here's who I think was perceived as "cool" and "uncool" in American politics since the 1960s:

1960s: When it was coolest to be left-wing. Young student activists and visionary idealists associated with the New Left defined political coolness in this period, while equally cool figures like Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg served as elder (over 30) statesmen for the political and social counterculture. That's not to say hippies were necessarily cool, but the college kids who protested the Vietnam War, smoked pot, listened to Jimi Hendrix, and spearheaded the Sexual Revolution definitely were.

1970s: Richard Nixon might be the most remarkably uncool person in American history, so anyone opposed to his administration was by comparison at least decently cool. After Watergate, when Americans lost faith in their government, it was cool to just not give a damn about politics anymore and spend all night at the disco high on Quaaludes.

1980s: When it was coolest to be right-wing. Ronnie Reagan brought the nation back from the brink and made us proud to be American again, feared abroad and respected at home. In the 80s, there was nothing cooler than the Red Dawn kids kicking some Commie and Russkie ass, while aspiring yuppies looked to Gordon Gekko's "Greed is good" Wall St. life as a source of inspiration. At the same time, the lives of real-life Gordon Gekkos like Donald Trump were glamorized in mainstream culture and the media. Meanwhile, Democrats were just a bunch of wimps, losers, and stiffs like Michael Dukakis, gloomy naysayers who fretted about the rising national debt instead of enjoying the great American comeback.

1990s: A masterclass in the co-option of cool. Bill Clinton took what was coolest about Ronald Reagan - charm, optimism, and new ideas - and brought them to the Democratic side. He played the saxophone, spoke to ordinary Americans about their pain, and reassured the nation that he was a "New Democrat"; not like the tired old ones. In so doing he won over half the nation, while the other half looked on bitterly at his electoral and economic successes. Their anger at Clinton ultimately culminated in his farcical impeachment by prurient ideologues and repressed sex-obsesseds, first among them Special Counsel Kenneth Starr, who was about as uncool a person as is humanly possible.

2000s: After 9/11, partisan politics were put aside as the nation rallied around the flag. Rudy Giuliani, the socially moderate NYC Mayor popular among members of both parties, was definitely one of the cooler politicians. Once the Iraq War became a quagmire, however, George W. Bush became very uncool, widely loathed at home and abroad. Barack Obama, on the other hand, effortlessly exuded coolness from the moment he began his presidential run in 2008. Not only was he way cooler than Bush and McCain, he was also so much cooler than his main primary opponent, the perennially uncool Hillary Clinton (unlike her husband). Libertarianism also had its moment in the sun at the end of the decade, as part of a spectrum-wide backlash against Bush-era neoconservatism.

2010s: Obama's cool sheen began to wear off early in the 2010s, but no matter what he would always be way cooler than his enemies, especially when organized into a group so utterly uncool as the Tea Party. In other words, when the main conservative opposition to your administration consists of a legion of Glenn Beck fans dressed in comically absurd Americana outfits, it's really no contest. Up-and-coming congressional conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Ted Cruz were equally, if not more, unlikable. Somewhat unexpectedly, the 2016 election saw young left-wing activism become the coolest it had been since the 1960s through the campaign of Bernie Sanders, one of the hippest campaigns of modern times, only to lose in the primary to the forever uncool Hillary Clinton. On the Republican side, nominee Donald Trump still perhaps had some lingering 1980s coolness here and there, but the supporters he attracted were not very cool types. The idea of a "Trump supporter", which emerged during and after 2016, was supremely uncool to anyone not among the converted. Disproportionately old, white, bigoted, and rural, to anyone but themselves the "Trump supporter" represented the least cool segment of American society. This perception only increased after the riot at the US capitol (2020s, but whatever), which made even many Republicans embarrassed and ashamed at what their party had become.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2021, 09:40:18 PM »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2021, 06:58:54 PM »

Definitely the mid-2010s, probably more online than not though.
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2021, 10:29:34 AM »


LMAO
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2021, 01:13:49 PM »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.
What about Schwarzeneger?
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2021, 03:44:13 PM »
« Edited: September 08, 2021, 03:47:14 PM by DON FARBIZIO CORBERA »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.

Adam Kinzinger might be one of the most uncool people in America, and by-and-large, only uncool people would know who he is. The only uncool-er person in the Republican Party may be formerly cool Rudy Giuliani with his hair dye dripping down his temples. AK's just the flip side of MTG's uncool-factor.

The "cool" factor in the Trump administration probably begins and ends with Anthony Scaramucci.
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2021, 04:19:26 PM »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.
What about Schwarzeneger?


Very true, but both Kinzinger and Shwarzenegger are considered RINOs at this point. Ironic that two of the coolest and best figures left in the party are so disliked and distrusted there.
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2021, 06:08:43 PM »

Obviously the ‘80s, though “cool” took on a meaning closer to “mainstream” in that environment.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2021, 01:21:43 AM »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.
What about Schwarzeneger?


Very true, but both Kinzinger and Shwarzenegger are considered RINOs at this point. Ironic that two of the coolest and best figures left in the party are so disliked and distrusted there.
Kinzinger is not 1/10 as cool as Arnold
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2021, 12:07:38 PM »


The coolest Republican is Adam Kinzinger - who most of the party considers to be a RINO...
On the other hand, the most beloved figure in the party is a twice-impeached ex-president who was so bitter about his loss he refused to expect it and tried to have his cult invade the capitol of his own country. Less cool, and more concerning/disturbing/psychotic.
What about Schwarzeneger?


Very true, but both Kinzinger and Shwarzenegger are considered RINOs at this point. Ironic that two of the coolest and best figures left in the party are so disliked and distrusted there.
Kinzinger is not 1/10 as cool as Arnold

Fair enough. I can't believe I forgot Schwarznegger. I agree with you - the Governator is cool on his own level.
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