NEA(largest teacher union) calls for nationwide teaching of CRT

[DrScholl]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

[Bismarck]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

[DrScholl]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

[Bismarck]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

I have no problem with that. If we want to add the Tulsa massacre to the curriculum then fine. That’s not CRT.

[OSR stands with Israel]

CRT needs to be banned in all public K12 schools nationwide.  The vile racism and America hatred promoted by it is repugnant.

[DabbingSanta]

I've come to realize that most teachers unions are far left political machines which weaponize their members and the children they teach and use them as bargaining chips for political clout.  They don't actually care about teachers or quality of education.  Perfect example of why public labor unions are bad, and why states should be right-to-work.  

Nah, you just hate education because a very low percentage of educated people agree with your opinions.

Where did I say I hate education?  I said I hate teachers unions.  I love education!  

[Real Texan Politics]

Abolish teachers unions. There, I said it.

[Sestak]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

I have no problem with that. If we want to add the Tulsa massacre to the curriculum then fine. That’s not CRT.

It would still be banned by all currently proposed “anti-CRT” legislation.

[Bismarck]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

I have no problem with that. If we want to add the Tulsa massacre to the curriculum then fine. That’s not CRT.

It would still be banned by all currently proposed “anti-CRT” legislation.

Do you have a source for that? If so, I would not support such legislation. Somehow I don’t think that’s what the legislation does.

[JA]

[Bismarck]

I have yet to see any in the left describe it outside of the academics who formulated it. “Teaching the truth” is a vague and meaningless phrase.

[lfromnj]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

I have no problem with that. If we want to add the Tulsa massacre to the curriculum then fine. That’s not CRT.

It would still be banned by all currently proposed “anti-CRT” legislation.

Here's the issue and why it won't be banned.

A major component of anti CRT legislation is that one shouldn't teach students to feel guilty. If you taught about the Tulsa massacre then I could see students feeling guilty and everyone should be appalled of course but the purpose of teaching about the massacre should not be to make students feel guilty rather that would just be a side effect most likely but there shouldn't be bans due to side effects.

[BlueSwan]

I have yet to see any in the left describe it outside of the academics who formulated it. “Teaching the truth” is a vague and meaningless phrase.

"While critical race theorists do not all share the same beliefs, the basic tenets of CRT include that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing and often subtle social and institutional dynamics rather than explicit and intentional prejudices on the part of individuals."

Tell me what is dangerous, anti-american or anti-white about that. It is basically just the truth.

[lfromnj]

Is this about teaching it as one of many modes of literally/social/political analysis which have arisen in the past century (in which case, this is normal and should be contextualized in higher level English courses) or teaching as the one correct lens of interpreting all ideas? Because the implications of each are very different. It seems normal to me that high school so students should be exposed to everything from CRT to Marxism to Objectivism. Who benefits from teaching fewer perspectives?

Yes I don't really have too much issue with teaching this at a higher level English course although the way it can be taught will probably be poorly. The issue is that the goal here is to implement these ideas into curriculum including for elementary school kids and middle school kids to indoctrinate them. I learnt about Marxist/feminist analysis in English class and it was fine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/black-lives-matter-curriculum-has-unintended-lesson/618501/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/should-black-lives-matter-agenda-be-taught-school/618277/
If you want an extreme idea in a very woke school read through these articles.

The book instructs a young white reader that she doesn’t need to “defend” racism, and it presents her with a stark decision. An illustration depicts a devil holding a “contract binding you to whiteness.” It reads:

You get:

✓stolen land

✓stolen riches

✓special favors†

WHITENESS gets:

✓to mess endlessly with the lives of your friends, neighbors, loved ones, and all fellow humans of COLOR

✓your soul

Sign below:

_____________

†Land, riches, and favors may be revoked at any time, for any reason.

Even in high school the idea won't be a week long focus on a type of critical analysis which is what our Marxist stuff was but rather something that gets pushed through all classes and school culture in order to fundamentally change the school.

[DrScholl]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

Not everything is taught. My mother stated that she never was taught that George Washington owned slaves and there are countless people who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre until this year. Much of this country's history involves racism. There was a time when white supremacy was an actual mainstream goal.

That’s a horrible argument. Not everything that happened that’s important can be taught. What the left seems to want is to focus solely on the bad racial things to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Students already learn much more about the daily lives of black people in the history of the south than they do about say, Midwestern farmers, despite the fact that Midwestern farmers were a much larger part of the American experience. It’s good that things like the Tulsa massacre are getting more attention but the attempt to view everything in history through the lens of race is the problem.

An extended period of terrorism should be taught about. It wasn't just Tulsa, but there were other cities where there similar massacres and there were also lynchings that were ignored by the federal government. The fact that the government either ignored or supported racist actions means that it should be taught about.

I have no problem with that. If we want to add the Tulsa massacre to the curriculum then fine. That’s not CRT.

A lot of conservatives do not want any negative history taught. They want to teach their children a sanitized version of history.

[DaleCooper]

Almost nobody wants this and there will be electoral consequences if the left decides to die on this hill.

[DrScholl]

Almost nobody wants this and there will be electoral consequences if the left decides to die on this hill.

Copying Trump's racism is not going to do Democrats any good. Yes, you are talking about one thing, but it's only part of the larger narrative by some "Democrats" that the Democratic Party should be more like Trump on issues of race and call out "the blacks" and "the Mexicans" and "the orientals" on stealing jobs from white men.

[lfromnj]

https://ra.nea.org/business-item/2021-nbi-039/


To Blarite

B. Provide an already-created, in-depth, study that critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society, and that we oppose attempts to ban critical race theory and/or The 1619 Project.

I think everyone here can agree White supremacy is bad, so the goal here would be to teach that. So why are they keeping capitalism in the same line?

[JA]

I have yet to see any in the left describe it outside of the academics who formulated it. “Teaching the truth” is a vague and meaningless phrase.

CRT hardly exists outside of legal academia. It’s simply an outgrowth of critical theory, which is a school of thought within Sociology developed by the academics of the Frankfurt School to follow Marx’s belief that a philosopher’s job is not merely to study the world, but to change it. To do that, everything must be looked at critically and deconstructed; nothing about a society should be excluded from this criticism. The Frankfurt School members crafted these theories while witnessing the rise of Nazism (and most members were Jewish). It spread out of Germany as they fled persecution to the UK and US. But landing in those countries, experiencing their cultures informed these academics that the “authoritarian personality” that led to fascism existed in these countries too. So, the focus of their criticism grew to encompass all aspects of culture and discovering and routing out the underlying fascism in European derived cultures.

This evolved into an approach known as intersectionalism, which became a uniquely important tool among legal experts who otherwise didn’t have a way of understanding how intersecting identities like blackness and womanhood can overlap in terms of their oppression or inequality. Thus was born both intersectionalism and CRT. It is simply a way for legal experts to evaluate how even non-racist individuals can perpetuate racism through systematically racist structures. It has nothing to do with individual acts of racism or claiming this or that person/group is racist; it has everything to do with saying “American policing is rooted in racist practices and structures and racism is thus perpetuated even by non-racist actors by continuing these policies/practices.” How this became an accusation that CRT perpetuates the idea that one group of people is inherently racist or whatever can be attributed to bad faith actors and ignorant people who can’t be bothered to actually understand what they’re criticizing.

It would be a good thing for educators at all levels to incorporate critical race theory (and simply critical theory) into lesson plans as a way of critically evaluating the causes and effects of social problems in our society.

[JA]

I have yet to see any in the left describe it outside of the academics who formulated it. “Teaching the truth” is a vague and meaningless phrase.

"While critical race theorists do not all share the same beliefs, the basic tenets of CRT include that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing and often subtle social and institutional dynamics rather than explicit and intentional prejudices on the part of individuals."

Tell me what is dangerous, anti-american or anti-white about that. It is basically just the truth.

You just answered your own question.

[lfromnj]

Pls snip the meme, its way too big for something with not that much text and its being quoted too much.

[DaleCooper]

Almost nobody wants this and there will be electoral consequences if the left decides to die on this hill.

Copying Trump's racism is not going to do Democrats any good. Yes, you are talking about one thing, but it's only part of the larger narrative by some "Democrats" that the Democratic Party should be more like Trump on issues of race and call out "the blacks" and "the Mexicans" and "the orientals" on stealing jobs from white men.

When did I or anyone else say that the Democrats should emulate Trump on the subject of race? All I said was that we shouldn't defend incoherent, pseudo-academic drivel when close to a supermajority of voters are opposed to it.

[Sestak]

Do you have a source for that? If so, I would not support such legislation. Somehow I don’t think that’s what the legislation does.

I seem to recall reading that at least one of the Texas proposals said that teachers teaching any negative events in American history had to be taught “from multiple perspectives” with no preference given to any - which of course raises the question of what it means to teach the Tulsa massacre (or slavery etc for that matter) from multiple perspectives. Implication was made that teachers would be incentivized not to teach and just avoid a potential legal minefield. Will try to find where I saw this when I have time.

[JA]

Almost nobody wants this and there will be electoral consequences if the left decides to die on this hill.

Copying Trump's racism is not going to do Democrats any good. Yes, you are talking about one thing, but it's only part of the larger narrative by some "Democrats" that the Democratic Party should be more like Trump on issues of race and call out "the blacks" and "the Mexicans" and "the orientals" on stealing jobs from white men.

When did I or anyone else say that the Democrats should emulate Trump on the subject of race? All I said was that we shouldn't defend incoherent, pseudo-academic drivel when close to a supermajority of voters are opposed to it.

How is CRT “pseudo-academic?”

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Just keep pushing this crap. The farther out of the mainstream you get the greater the conservative backlash is going to be. Don’t you lefties see that you can never implement your economic policy goals as long as the public just views you as anti-white anti-American radicals? Nobody wants to racialize  everything like this. It’s disgusting.

 Why is teaching the truth "crap for lefties"? Why does acknowledging racial facts of American history so offensive to you? Are you a special snowflake?

See you have bough into the lie that critical race theory means teaching the bad sides of American history. Which has already been done for decades. Nobody is not taught about slavery and Indian removal. Critical race theory pushes the idea that everything even today is some kind of struggle for power among races with whites oppressing everyone else. It has nothing to do with “teaching the truth”. It’s straight up racist propaganda

No it DOESN'T. Teaching there is a racial component to most of American history is true.

Not only do you have no idea what you're talking about, you're arguing in bad faith.