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« on: July 02, 2021, 12:41:27 AM »

Kinda curious. Obviously he lost this time but I don't think this will be the last we see of him.

Anyway he just seems repulsive in a way that I don't feel about a lot of other politicians, especially those on the left. On both a personal and a political level.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2021, 12:42:25 AM »

The most FF politician in the entire English speaking world. If Jeremy Corbyn had guts.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2021, 01:18:33 AM »

George Galloway is a repulsive human being.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2021, 04:23:39 AM »

Cynical, opportunistic, poster child for all of the worst aspects of identity politics, a culture warrior who thrives on pitting groups of people against each other based on knee-jerk hatreds. Even in his Bush/Blair-era "prime" there were more than enough articulate and thoughtful voices against Middle Eastern intervention to make his own irrelevant to anyone with sense.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2021, 05:17:17 AM »

HP obviously, probably the worst of the British left and it is not remotely close. I'd genuinely consider Sinn Fein (literal terrorists!) over him!

I do wonder if, given his surprisingly large pull among British muslims; if he'd be able to win a constituency with a very high muslim population with a bit of luck and a bad Labour candidate (Birmingam Hodge Hill? East Ham? Blackburn?)
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2021, 07:14:05 AM »

A caricature of everything wrong on the left.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2021, 11:58:25 AM »

Big fan of his.  While I completely disagree with him on economic policies, he and I see mostly eye-to-eye on most international policy issues.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2021, 12:47:03 PM »

Big fan of his.  While I completely disagree with him on economic policies, he and I see mostly eye-to-eye on most international policy issues.

Somehow I doubt you do, unless you're significantly more antisemitic than I realized and support Hindutva out of a principled commitment to brutish ethnonationalism rather than out of any actual fondness for Hindi culture.

Anyway, Galloway is absolutely horrendous.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2021, 12:51:45 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2021, 12:57:17 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

Our leftists here are extremely pro-EU/internationalist, even the committed socialists; more so than at large I should think.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2021, 12:58:59 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

Our leftists here are extremely pro-EU/internationalist, even the committed socialists; more so than at large I should think.

Yeah but that can't be reason enough to vote HP. The repulsion levels (based on the results of the poll so far) would make you think Galloway was Nick Fuentes
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2021, 01:13:01 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

Our leftists here are extremely pro-EU/internationalist, even the committed socialists; more so than at large I should think.

Yeah but that can't be reason enough to vote HP. The repulsion levels (based on the results of the poll so far) would make you think Galloway was Nick Fuentes

Galloway's recent campaigns have been explicitly sectionalist and, in Batley and Spen's case, homophobic. That's lost him a lot of goodwill from people who liked what he was about during the Respect phase of his career.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2021, 01:20:02 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

If you took his description of his party I can understand a vote for FF but on five minutes of viewing him you would realise he's an HP. Far more of a grifter than people like Charles Booker.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2021, 01:25:40 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

If you took his description of his party I can understand a vote for FF but on five minutes of viewing him you would realise he's an HP. Far more of a grifter than people like Charles Booker.

I mean generally policy is the only thing I can go by since I don't actively watch or participate in British politics. And I do, in general, think policy should matter more anyway. Is there a particular event you are referring to that makes his grift known?
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2021, 01:43:31 PM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

If you took his description of his party I can understand a vote for FF but on five minutes of viewing him you would realise he's an HP. Far more of a grifter than people like Charles Booker.

I mean generally policy is the only thing I can go by since I don't actively watch or participate in British politics. And I do, in general, think policy should matter more anyway. Is there a particular event you are referring to that makes his grift known?

More of a series events, including but not limited to:
-Standing in several elections in all different parts of the country, but generally Muslim/Asian-heavy areas where he plays on cultural divides and stokes prejudice under the guise of representing the people. Since being expelled from Labour he has stood in the Westminster constituencies of Bethnal Green and Bow, Poplar and Limehouse, Bradford West, Manchester Gorton, West Bromwich East and Batley and Spen, twice for the Scottish Parliament, once for Respect and once for All for Unity, two minor parties whose members have completely different views, and for Mayor of London. He's lost his deposit in about half of them. He's also announced his candidacy for a potential by-election in Rutherglen.
-Setting up or joining several parties and supporting several others, and also claiming to support Labour several times despite standing against them.
-Stoking prejudice to play into whatever group he needs support from, be that South Asians, Brexiteers, or Scottish Unionists. Fyi I am a Brexiteer, Unionist (and Asian, but not South Asian or Muslim). He's also had numerous libel and slander cases I think, both as defendant and plaintiff.
-Appearing on channels like Russia Today and Press TV (Iranian state media) to do the above.
-As well as this he is genuinely anti-Semitic, far more than Corbyn ever supposedly was. He also supports Bashar al-Assad.

That being said I agree with him on Saudi Arabia and some of his Iraq War comments in hindsight.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2021, 01:57:40 PM »

The most FF politician in the entire English speaking world. If Jeremy Corbyn had guts.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2021, 01:59:49 PM »

I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him
Based on your post, that's a bit of an understatement.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2021, 02:02:43 PM »

Big fan of his.  While I completely disagree with him on economic policies, he and I see mostly eye-to-eye on most international policy issues.

Somehow I doubt you do, unless you're significantly more antisemitic than I realized and support Hindutva out of a principled commitment to brutish ethnonationalism rather than out of any actual fondness for Hindi culture.

Anyway, Galloway is absolutely horrendous.

Fair comment.  I was not thoughtful enough with my comments.  I am for non-intervention let the local parties fight it out and the winner wins by right of conquest.  In the Middle East that would in de facto terms align with Galloway but it would not be in South Asia.  Galloway clearly backs certain sides while I am more about might makes right. Thanks for pointing out this flaw in my thinking.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2021, 02:14:34 PM »

Big fan of his.  While I completely disagree with him on economic policies, he and I see mostly eye-to-eye on most international policy issues.

Somehow I doubt you do, unless you're significantly more antisemitic than I realized and support Hindutva out of a principled commitment to brutish ethnonationalism rather than out of any actual fondness for Hindi culture.

Anyway, Galloway is absolutely horrendous.

Fair comment.  I was not thoughtful enough with my comments.  I am for non-intervention let the local parties fight it out and the winner wins by right of conquest.  In the Middle East that would in de facto terms align with Galloway but it would not be in South Asia.  Galloway clearly backs certain sides while I am more about might makes right. Thanks for pointing out this flaw in my thinking.

Huh, this response actually makes me like George Galloway better. Stranger things!

Thanks for being receptive to criticism though, I guess.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2021, 02:17:13 PM »

I like George Galloway in theory.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2021, 03:42:57 PM »

It is likely for the best that he lost.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2021, 06:55:36 PM »

Very bad
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2021, 05:55:54 AM »

Genuinely don't understand the Galloway hate here. I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on him so maybe there's some skeleton in the closet I'm missing, but his platform seems rather solid. He is pro-Palestine and thus anti-Zionist and served with a charity for giving aid to Gaza. He also supported Corbyn during the Labour election, and voted Leave for the E.U. vote, so seems pretty left-wing populist all-round. He called his party "economically radical with an independent foreign policy" which is something I'd support, and also seems very socialistic. "I am a revolutionary. I am a Socialist who doesn't like Capitalism and who likes Imperialism less. I am a revolutionary and I support the armed struggle where there is no alternative."

If you took his description of his party I can understand a vote for FF but on five minutes of viewing him you would realise he's an HP. Far more of a grifter than people like Charles Booker.

I mean generally policy is the only thing I can go by since I don't actively watch or participate in British politics. And I do, in general, think policy should matter more anyway. Is there a particular event you are referring to that makes his grift known?

The issue here is hyper focus on policy is itself a superficial way of looking at politicians: the issue with Galloway is he thrives on taking advantage of existing ethnic tensions and inflaming then in an extremely nasty way. Now, he isn't alone in doing this - an embarrassing amount of British MP's do  play in the waters of such nakedly sectarian methods - but he has a habit of doing in a uniquely nasty manner (like sending leaflets that highlighted how halal he was relative to his Muslim opponent by suggesting the latter was a drinker or getting an agent to pretend to be Naz Shah's dead father to try and get a copy of her marriage certificate to "prove" she was lying about her underage and abusive marriage.)

There's also his repeated praise of Saddam Hussein etc. but that all speaks for itself.
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2021, 06:02:49 AM »

An equivalent of Donald Trump on the left-wing.
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2021, 07:43:35 AM »

My personal animus towards him goes back to being age 13 and a school trip to London.
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