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« on: June 27, 2021, 11:17:59 AM »

Multitalented and brilliant musician who was unfairly maligned for decades, or the man responsible for the cheesiest and most soulless corporate pop of the 1980s? You decide!
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2021, 11:35:31 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2021, 11:41:11 AM »

In the mid 2000s, there was a Grand Theft Auto commercial that used Easy Lover in it and I have been something of a fan ever since I saw that.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2021, 11:50:42 AM »

His music is very bland and milquetoast, and he is a Tory tax exile. HP.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2021, 12:03:26 PM »

His music is very bland and milquetoast, and he is a Tory tax exile. HP.

Agreed. There is a good way to do 'bland and milquetoast' but he isn't it. He appears on this here list for a reason (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_considered_the_worst)
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2021, 12:41:21 PM »

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins, and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little? Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion." In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight and "Against All Odds." Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio," a great, great song, a personal favorite.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2021, 01:03:35 PM »

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins, and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little? Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion." In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight and "Against All Odds." Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio," a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Very interesting analysis.

By the way, do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2021, 01:56:57 PM »

Big FF musically.

I have half the songs from the Tarzan and Brother Bear soundtracks along with "Don't Lose My Number" on my main Spotify playlist, and "Taking It All Too Hard" and "Throwing It All Away" on my "Bad Songs to Play at Weddings" playlist.

Except, wait, I also have Huey Lewis on that second playlist... does that mean I'm just a counterpart of Patrick Bateman?
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2021, 02:13:17 PM »

His Tarzan tracks are good. Him personally is mixed feelings overall
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2021, 02:46:20 PM »

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins, and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little? Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion." In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight and "Against All Odds." Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio," a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Very interesting analysis.

By the way, do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to Be Square." A song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the band itself.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2021, 08:44:01 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 08:54:20 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2021, 04:13:36 PM »

Made lots of bad music, his hot daughter is the best thing about him.
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