What would be the Democratic autopsy if Trump won with this map in 2016?
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« on: June 16, 2021, 08:12:37 PM »



Clinton manages to hang on to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and wins them all by respectable margins (~5%); however, Trump wins Nevada by less than 5,000 votes and New Hampshire by less than 200.

Nationally, Clinton wins by 4.5% due to supercharged turnout in big cities.

After several recounts, Trump's victories in Nevada and New Hampshire are certified.

What would happen in this scenario?
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 09:08:00 PM »

McGinty and Feingold possibly win in PA and WI, making a lesser senate majority for the Rs, possibly not being able to pass the 2017 tax cuts. Though this is counter-acted wit Ayotte likely winning re-election in this.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2021, 04:46:09 AM »

Slightly less discourse about struggles with the "white working class" and slightly more blaming third party voters and Russiagate amped up to ten.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2021, 02:20:52 PM »

There would be a lot more protests I'm certain.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2021, 09:11:25 AM »

Slightly less discourse about struggles with the "white working class" and slightly more blaming third party voters and Russiagate amped up to ten.

This would be a nightmare, considering they’ve only been doing the latter anyway

Yeah, you’d probably see McCcarthyesque investigations into the Green Party, on the plus side fewer idiotic “let’s talk to Trump voters at a diner in Ohio” pieces.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2021, 12:00:56 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2021, 12:12:40 PM by Antarctic-Statism »

Because it was so close, no autopsy. Just even more doubling down and claims of a stolen election. You wouldn't even see the tearful journal articles assessing how the American psyche got so broken as to elect Trump, just straight-up assertions en masse of an illegitimate presidency (like what Republicans are doing now but without the whole violent occupation of the capitol, kidnapping governors thing).

Yeah, you’d probably see McCcarthyesque investigations into the Green Party, on the plus side fewer idiotic “let’s talk to Trump voters at a diner in Ohio” pieces.

...And a whole lot of this especially. Everyone who opposes the Democrat establishment would be part of some conspiracy between Trump and a designated enemy foreign country of the week. There may not have been a Congresswoman AOC or a second Sanders campaign.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 12:48:35 PM »

McGinty and Feingold possibly win in PA and WI, making a lesser senate majority for the Rs, possibly not being able to pass the 2017 tax cuts. Though this is counter-acted wit Ayotte likely winning re-election in this.

I could still see Hassan winning and maybe Kander winning. May there are 205 or 206 D representatives?
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2021, 01:58:58 PM »

McGinty and Feingold possibly win in PA and WI, making a lesser senate majority for the Rs, possibly not being able to pass the 2017 tax cuts. Though this is counter-acted wit Ayotte likely winning re-election in this.

I could still see Hassan winning and maybe Kander winning. May there are 205 or 206 D representatives?
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2021, 06:23:38 PM »

McGinty and Feingold possibly win in PA and WI, making a lesser senate majority for the Rs, possibly not being able to pass the 2017 tax cuts. Though this is counter-acted wit Ayotte likely winning re-election in this.

I could still see Hassan winning and maybe Kander winning. May there are 205 or 206 D representatives?
I am pretty sure that Kelly Ayotte and Joe Heck would have won if Donald Trump got this map in 2016, though Jason Kander, Russ Feingold, and Katie McGinty definitely win. This would put the Democrats in a slightly better position in 2021 and might increase the pressure on Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to get rid of the filibuster.
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