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« Reply #2925 on: August 24, 2023, 02:26:10 PM »

I suspect Trump is refusing a potential plea deal because he doesn't want to drop out
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« Reply #2926 on: August 24, 2023, 10:24:26 PM »

Is there any legitimacy to the secret service thing? I fail to see why he couldn't just have a security detail and be kept separate from the general prison population as has occurred with other high profile inmates with an increased assassination risk like organized crime figures or informants. Just seems like we give presidents way too much leniency sometimes. The Justice Department "can't indict the president" thing is so stupid. They are supposed to be citizen leaders not above the law and ultimately public servants
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« Reply #2927 on: August 25, 2023, 11:56:29 AM »

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« Reply #2928 on: August 25, 2023, 06:55:28 PM »

BOOM!!! I knew this would happen rather sooner than later!

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« Reply #2929 on: August 26, 2023, 11:37:12 AM »

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/judge-in-trump-jan-6-case-is-scion-of-marxists/

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The judge assigned to [Trump’s Jan 6th case] is the scion of a family of revolutionary Marxists in her native Jamaica.

Judge Tanya S. Chutkan … is the granddaughter of Frank Hill, a Jamaican communist revolutionary, who along with his brother Ken were briefly jailed by the island’s British governor during World War II over suspicions of “subversive activities.”

Hill is the father of Noelle Hill, Judge Chutkan’s mother, public records show.

Frank, along with his brother Ken Hill, and fellow comrades Richard Hart and Arthur Henry, were expelled from the People’s National Party of Jamaica for espousing communist views, according to local Jamaican media.
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« Reply #2930 on: August 26, 2023, 11:38:57 AM »

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/judge-in-trump-jan-6-case-is-scion-of-marxists/

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The judge assigned to [Trump’s Jan 6th case] is the scion of a family of revolutionary Marxists in her native Jamaica.

Judge Tanya S. Chutkan … is the granddaughter of Frank Hill, a Jamaican communist revolutionary, who along with his brother Ken were briefly jailed by the island’s British governor during World War II over suspicions of “subversive activities.”

Hill is the father of Noelle Hill, Judge Chutkan’s mother, public records show.

Frank, along with his brother Ken Hill, and fellow comrades Richard Hart and Arthur Henry, were expelled from the People’s National Party of Jamaica for espousing communist views, according to local Jamaican media.

So what?
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« Reply #2931 on: August 26, 2023, 11:43:47 AM »


Haven't you heard? Marxist-Leninist-Revolutionaryism is genetically heritable. As such, there is a 100% chance that Tanya Chutkin inherited the Marxist-Leninst-Revolutionary haplotype from her grandfather (and inherited nothing from her other 3 grandparents).

In other words, Trump is being persecuted by a spectre. A spectre of communism which is haunting Europe. And now also haunting Mar-a-lago as well.
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« Reply #2932 on: August 26, 2023, 11:44:16 AM »
« Edited: August 26, 2023, 12:08:46 PM by Redban »

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/judge-in-trump-jan-6-case-is-scion-of-marxists/

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The judge assigned to [Trump’s Jan 6th case] is the scion of a family of revolutionary Marxists in her native Jamaica.

Judge Tanya S. Chutkan … is the granddaughter of Frank Hill, a Jamaican communist revolutionary, who along with his brother Ken were briefly jailed by the island’s British governor during World War II over suspicions of “subversive activities.”

Hill is the father of Noelle Hill, Judge Chutkan’s mother, public records show.

Frank, along with his brother Ken Hill, and fellow comrades Richard Hart and Arthur Henry, were expelled from the People’s National Party of Jamaica for espousing communist views, according to local Jamaican media.

So what?

1). she is the judge assigned to the case (but please, correct me if I err)

2) The judge handling the case has communist background, which points to potential bias (especially in light of her other troublesome comments, such as her support for riots in 2020)

3). BRB - Potential bias in the overseeing judge = “So what?” … convict by any means necessary is your motto

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« Reply #2933 on: August 26, 2023, 11:51:13 AM »

Redban really wants to go down the bias judge route?
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« Reply #2934 on: August 26, 2023, 12:44:57 PM »

She already ruled partially in his favor on the protective order, the government wanted it to cover all discovery and she didn't give them that. Trump wanted to apply only to sensitive discovery and she granted that. We'll see what happens this week with the trial date but while I expect she's not going to give him 2026, I doubt she goes with Jan 2 either.
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« Reply #2935 on: August 26, 2023, 02:04:34 PM »

I have a nagging feeling that if judge Chutkan's grandpa was a Nazi sympathizer Redban would have no problem with that.
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« Reply #2936 on: August 26, 2023, 02:09:09 PM »

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/judge-in-trump-jan-6-case-is-scion-of-marxists/

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The judge assigned to [Trump’s Jan 6th case] is the scion of a family of revolutionary Marxists in her native Jamaica.

Judge Tanya S. Chutkan … is the granddaughter of Frank Hill, a Jamaican communist revolutionary, who along with his brother Ken were briefly jailed by the island’s British governor during World War II over suspicions of “subversive activities.”

Hill is the father of Noelle Hill, Judge Chutkan’s mother, public records show.

Frank, along with his brother Ken Hill, and fellow comrades Richard Hart and Arthur Henry, were expelled from the People’s National Party of Jamaica for espousing communist views, according to local Jamaican media.

So what?

She might bite Donald Trump at the trial and give him the communism. It's not only hereditary— it's also contagious!
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« Reply #2937 on: August 27, 2023, 08:59:35 PM »

We get the trial date tomorrow:

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« Reply #2938 on: August 28, 2023, 12:39:28 AM »

We get the trial date tomorrow:



This is going to be extremely important when considered against the case in Georgia.

Trump's attorneys are aiming for fast prosecutions in Georgia, while their criminal organization head boss delays his own trial as long as possible

That's because their defense is going to be "this was all attorney-client privilege discussion", while Trump's defense is going to be "I told my lawyers to tell me it was legal and they did, so I was acting on advice of council" which will blow all the lawyers defenses apart... unless they've already been found not guilty.

If the DC trials throws this all out into the open before any of them go on trial in Georgia, then all their attempts to game the system there will matter a lot less.
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« Reply #2939 on: August 28, 2023, 12:50:08 AM »

Once the trial are set in motion and these Trials aren't televised, but detriment evidence will come out to hurt Trump more in a GE than a primary, some polls showing Trump kneck and kneck, with Biden, he isn't leading Biden, because it's a 303 map, are gonna fade fast once the evidence comes out.


So, far Trump has been fingerprinted, it's just like most celebrities like Michael Jackson they are deemed innocent until the evidence proves they are guilty and Trump isn't a liberal Celebrity he is a Conserv celebrity like Reagan was
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« Reply #2940 on: August 28, 2023, 02:19:57 AM »

Trump's attorneys are aiming for fast prosecutions in Georgia, while their criminal organization head boss delays his own trial as long as possible

Huh? His lawyers moved to sever the case from Chesebro who wants a speedy trial. Powell has also asked for one.
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« Reply #2941 on: August 28, 2023, 06:50:16 AM »

NBC is reporting that Chutkan it looks like agreeing to January 6th 2024 Trial Date for the J6 Case!
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« Reply #2942 on: August 28, 2023, 07:12:38 AM »

I'm not seeing that. I've seen many commentators opine she'll go early 2024 because of her warning to Trump, but I don't think there's any inside scoop on what she'll do.
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« Reply #2943 on: August 28, 2023, 07:21:40 AM »

Trump's attorneys are aiming for fast prosecutions in Georgia, while their criminal organization head boss delays his own trial as long as possible

Huh? His lawyers moved to sever the case from Chesebro who wants a speedy trial. Powell has also asked for one.

This belongs in the Georgia thread, btw.  But his point is that Trump's lawyers want Chesebro etc. but not Trump to have a speedy trial there, because it will reveal much of the prosecution's evidence before Trump goes to trial.
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« Reply #2944 on: August 28, 2023, 07:27:03 AM »

Trump implies Biden knew he was about to be indicated.

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It has just been reported that aides to TRUMP prosecutor, Deranged Jack Smith, met with high officials at the White House just prior to these political SleazeBags Indicating me OVER NOTHING. If this is so, which it is, that means that Biden and his Fascist Thugs knew and APPROVED of this Country dividing Form of Election Interference, despite their insisting that they “knew nothing.” It’s all a BIG LIE, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, & not knowing about son’s business dealings. DISMISS CASE!
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« Reply #2945 on: August 28, 2023, 07:31:08 AM »

Trump implies Biden knew he was about to be indicated.

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It has just been reported that aides to TRUMP prosecutor, Deranged Jack Smith, met with high officials at the White House just prior to these political SleazeBags Indicating me OVER NOTHING. If this is so, which it is, that means that Biden and his Fascist Thugs knew and APPROVED of this Country dividing Form of Election Interference, despite their insisting that they “knew nothing.” It’s all a BIG LIE, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, & not knowing about son’s business dealings. DISMISS CASE!

Wow, if Trump said it, it must be true.
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« Reply #2946 on: August 28, 2023, 08:15:24 AM »

Trump implies Biden knew he was about to be indicated.

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It has just been reported that aides to TRUMP prosecutor, Deranged Jack Smith, met with high officials at the White House just prior to these political SleazeBags Indicating me OVER NOTHING. If this is so, which it is, that means that Biden and his Fascist Thugs knew and APPROVED of this Country dividing Form of Election Interference, despite their insisting that they “knew nothing.” It’s all a BIG LIE, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, & not knowing about son’s business dealings. DISMISS CASE!

You'd think someone with Trump's education would have a better grasp of spelling.
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« Reply #2947 on: August 28, 2023, 08:35:02 AM »

NBC is reporting that Chutkan it looks like agreeing to January 6th 2024 Trial Date for the J6 Case!

Regardless of what the various parties want and what is slightly better/worse for each side, it would definitely be fitting for the trial date to be January 6. And the courthouse in DC is only a couple hundred yards from the Capitol building.
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« Reply #2948 on: August 28, 2023, 09:14:19 AM »
« Edited: August 28, 2023, 09:19:12 AM by 2016 »

CHUTKAN says neither, the Jan 2 2024 Date nor the Apil 2026 Data is acceptable.

She would not comply to accomodate Trumps Political Schedule.

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« Reply #2949 on: August 28, 2023, 09:31:56 AM »

LAURO berrating CHUTKAN!

Do your Job Tanya!
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