January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

[Pericles]

My point wasn't that he's innocent, just that imo legally it is more difficult to get him on these charges than the classified documents. This is a pretty unprecedented situation so that makes it more legally complicated, while lots of people have mishandled documents and had the book thrown at them for it.

[Landslide Lyndon]

My point wasn't that he's innocent, just that imo legally it is more difficult to get him on these charges than the classified documents. This is a pretty unprecedented situation so that makes it more legally complicated, while lots of people have mishandled documents and had the book thrown at them for it.

As far as the fake electors go, this is an open and shut case. It's indisputable that Trump and his lackeys conspired to reject the legitimate slates and admit the fake ones along with forged certificates.   

[Middle-aged Europe]

Trump seems determined to push the judge's warning about not intimidating jurors or witnesses:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1687561085128208386

Tit for tat.

Let's storm Mar-a-Lago.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

So here’s an interesting question in my mind:
Suppose the election actually -was- stolen.  In this case, would Trump’s actions have been legal?

I think the answer is no…if the election was actually stolen, the remedy is present your evidence of this in court.  It’s not to appoint a slate of electors separate from the state certified slate and convince federal officers to ignore the state certifications, right?

So if this is true, it shouldn’t matter whether Trump knew or believed the election wasn’t stolen.  He’s guilty regardless.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I think the answer is no…if the election was actually stolen, the remedy is present your evidence of this in court. 

I guess Trump's argument would be that he already attempted to do that in the months before January 6 and that the courts had summarily dismissed his case (because the courts are also supposedly rigged against him).

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1687574728360235008

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Trump seems determined to push the judge's warning about not intimidating jurors or witnesses:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1687561085128208386

Tit for tat.

Let's storm Mar-a-Lago.

No no, let's be polite first. 

"Hey there.  We're here for insurrection in the spirit of vengeance.  Let us in, please?"

[2016]

Trump seems determined to push the judge's warning about not intimidating jurors or witnesses:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1687561085128208386

Special Counsel Jack Smith is well aware what Trump Posts on Truth Social but is willing to take some hits to win the war
https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1687619766167498752

[emailking]

Sure hope you know that's fake...

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump seems determined to push the judge's warning about not intimidating jurors or witnesses:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1687561085128208386

Helpfully shared by his faithful frontwoman at the NYT, I see.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump seems determined to push the judge's warning about not intimidating jurors or witnesses:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1687561085128208386

Helpfully shared by his faithful frontwoman at the NYT, I see.

It's been shared by a bunch of other people in my feed.  It's news.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744

[Florida Man for Crime]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744

Looks like an early signal that Trump's usual shenanigans are not going to fly here. We have entered a new reality.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Chuck Todd pointed out earlier that while republicans are complaining about this , we wouldn’t need this case if Republicans just impeached him

Convicted, you mean (or he means, if he's the one who said it).  He was impeached.

[2016]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744

Looks like an early signal that Trump's usual shenanigans are not going to fly here. We have entered a new reality.

Lock him up NOW!

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744

Looks like an early signal that Trump's usual shenanigans are not going to fly here. We have entered a new reality.

Sanity is being restored

[emailking]

‘A lost soul’: Trump trashes Jack Smith at campaign event after judge's warning

Donald Trump trashed special counsel Jack Smith at an Alabama campaign event Friday night, a day after a magistrate judge warned the former president that his rhetoric could get him into trouble.

Trump delivered his remarks at the Alabama Republican Party Summer Dinner in Montgomery.

...

“Doesn’t he look deranged?” Trump said of Smith.

“You see the picture with the purple robe, he's a deranged human being. We're getting stronger by the day, somebody said ‘you should treat him nicer’…Let me tell you this guy's a lost soul, bad guy. They don’t get nicer. He’s a deranged sick person,” Trump said.

Trump suggested that those behind his legal troubles are “the ones that have to be investigated.”

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-news-2662771564

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/BrianKarem/status/1687685417154342912

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1687200857518231552?t=coVoDp-NkBqPnPd2C5...

I'm genuinely giddy with excitement that trump is about to meet something face to face that he has never met before in his life: someone with power over him who will throw him in jail without a second thought if he breaks this sort of gag rule he's under. I honestly don't think he makes it until the trial without being locked up.

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://twitter.com/BrianKarem/status/1687685417154342912

Sure thing, Donnie, sure thing.

[Torie]

Trump's rants are the epitome of fear itself.

One of the most interesting fields of legal play here, as to Trump's state of mind, is that Trump is going to contend that he relied on the legal advice of Eastman about the rogue elector scheme. And then there are the parade of lawyers who told Trump that Eastman was nuts. How does the attorney client privilege play out here?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump's rants are the epitome of fear itself.

One of the most interesting fields of legal play here, as to Trump's state of mind, is that Trump is going to contend that he relied on the legal advice of Eastman about the rogue elector scheme. And then there are the parade of lawyers who told Trump that Eastman was nuts. How does the attorney client privilege play out here?

I've seen some commentary that says if Trump wants to raise an advice-of-counsel defense, he'd have to get on the stand and testify, and there's zero chance his lawyers will let him do that.

[Torie]

Trump's rants are the epitome of fear itself.

One of the most interesting fields of legal play here, as to Trump's state of mind, is that Trump is going to contend that he relied on the legal advice of Eastman about the rogue elector scheme. And then there are the parade of lawyers who told Trump that Eastman was nuts. How does the attorney client privilege play out here?

I've seen some commentary that says if Trump wants to raise an advice-of-counsel defense, he'd have to get on the stand and testify, and there's zero chance his lawyers will let him do that.

Yes I was wondering about that, although Eastman could testify what he told Trump and there are his writings, so his counsel could argue that it was reasonable for Trump to rely on such advice. A tougher lift might be to persuade a judge that the opinion was facially plausible. The DC jury of course is not going to accept any of it. That raises the issue as to whether Trump can invoke the attorney client privilege to preclude testimony that all the other lawyers told him Eastman was crazy.

[emailking]

A problem there is that Eastman can't testify at all because he's a coconspirator his lawyer would tell him to take the 5th. That can be remedied if his trial goes first or he's given immunity but obviously Smith doesn't want to do that. Trump may make an issue out of this though as a delay tactic.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1687642534804127744

Jesus. This guy is beyond stupid. But there's a reason his staffers and attorneys always tried to avoid having him under oath, because he'd imediately incriminate himself since his lying is pathological.

There's clearly fear behind it, as his increasingly unhinged behavior shows. He should actually seek help from a psychatrist.