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« Reply #2275 on: July 05, 2023, 10:45:12 PM »

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January 6 rioter says she was 'brainwashed' and part of a 'cult.'

Watch this video.

https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/07/06/pam-hemphill-donald-trump-january-6-brainwashed-ac360-vpx.cnn

I'm still perplexed on how someone/anyone could fall into this extreme position. But I'm glad she finally figured-out the truth.
Still a sad story overall.
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« Reply #2276 on: July 06, 2023, 07:29:15 PM »

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January 6 rioter says she was 'brainwashed' and part of a 'cult.'

Watch this video.

https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/07/06/pam-hemphill-donald-trump-january-6-brainwashed-ac360-vpx.cnn

I'm still perplexed on how someone/anyone could fall into this extreme position. But I'm glad she finally figured-out the truth.
Still a sad story overall.

I appreciate that she acknowledged the textbook cult-like nature of her brainwashing, she isn't alone and there are many susceptible to it, unfortunately, throughout time even.
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« Reply #2277 on: July 07, 2023, 12:34:57 PM »

Not directly Jan6-related, but this seems to be the thread for election denial consequences in general.


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« Reply #2278 on: July 07, 2023, 03:10:35 PM »

Special counsel prosecutors question witnesses about chaotic Oval Office meeting after Trump lost the 2020 election

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Special counsel Jack Smith’s team has signaled a continued interest in a chaotic Oval Office meeting that took place in the final days of the Trump administration, during which the former president considered some of the most desperate proposals to keep him in power over objections from his White House counsel.

Multiple sources told CNN that investigators have asked several witnesses before the grand jury and during interviews about the meeting, which happened about six weeks after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. Some witnesses were asked about the meeting months ago, while several others have faced questions about it more recently, including Rudy Giuliani.

Last month, for two consecutive days, Giuliani sat down with investigators for a voluntary interview about a range of topics, including the tumultuous December 2020 meeting that he attended, sources said.

Prosecutors have specifically inquired about three outside Trump advisers who participated in the meeting: former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, one-time national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, sources said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/06/politics/oval-office-meeting-trump-special-counsel-probe/index.html
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« Reply #2279 on: July 10, 2023, 07:21:47 AM »

Long but interesting thread:

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« Reply #2280 on: July 11, 2023, 08:19:00 AM »

Meanwhile, back in Atlanta...

The selection of two grand jury panels for the new Fulton County Superior Court term will take place today.  One of these two panels will consider indictments in the Georgia election interference investigation.  Indictments, if any (but there almost certainly will be some) will likely be handed down between July 31 and August 18.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/grand-jurors-who-will-consider-trump-charges-to-be-selected-tuesday/R7RXC2GUFRB5JLHKKRE5LX4IZ4/
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« Reply #2281 on: July 12, 2023, 08:49:20 PM »

Justice Department appealing prison sentences given to convicted Oath Keepers members

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The Justice Department is appealing the sentences that eight convicted defendants tied to the Oath Keepers received for seditious conspiracy or other conspiracy charges related to their roles in the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

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The appeals will keep alive tests in court of aspects of the case against the Oath Keepers, potentially generating new law around the seditious conspiracy offenses – a rare charge that marked the most aggressive and politically charged response to the Capitol riot to date from the Justice Department.

Wednesday’s filings did not provide the reasoning or legal arguments for the DOJ’s appeals, but several of the Oath Keepers’ sentences were well below what prosecutors had asked for in court.

For instance, Judge Amit Mehta sentenced Rhodes to 18 years in prison. Yet prosecutors had sought 25 years. Kelly Meggs, the leader of the Florida contingent of the group, received from Mehta a 12-year sentence, though prosecutors had sought 21 years. Meggs’ sentence is among those being appealed as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/12/politics/doj-appeals-oath-keepers-sentences/index.html
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« Reply #2282 on: July 12, 2023, 08:52:14 PM »

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« Reply #2283 on: July 13, 2023, 03:41:41 PM »

Prosecutors Ask Witnesses Whether Trump Acknowledged He Lost 2020 Race
Jared Kushner was questioned before a federal grand jury as prosecutors appeared to be trying to establish if the former president knew his efforts to stay in power were built on a lie.

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Federal prosecutors investigating former President Donald J. Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election have questioned multiple witnesses in recent weeks — including Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner — about whether Mr. Trump had privately acknowledged in the days after the 2020 election that he had lost, according to four people briefed on the matter.

The line of questioning suggests prosecutors are trying to establish whether Mr. Trump was acting with corrupt intent as he sought to remain in power — essentially that his efforts were knowingly based on a lie — evidence that could substantially bolster any case they might decide to bring against him.

Mr. Kushner testified before a grand jury at the federal courthouse in Washington last month, where he is said to have maintained that it was his impression that Mr. Trump truly believed the election was stolen, according to a person briefed on the matter.

The questioning of Mr. Kushner shows that the federal investigation being led by the special counsel Jack Smith continues to pierce the layers closest to Mr. Trump as prosecutors weigh whether to bring charges against the former president...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/kushner-grand-jury-trump.html
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« Reply #2284 on: July 14, 2023, 07:16:25 AM »

Another one got a pretty lengthy sentence: https://www.wmtw.com/article/maine-capitol-riot-kyle-fitzsimons-sentence-january-6/44535296

Just look at the photos of this guy there. Absolutely deranged.
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« Reply #2285 on: July 14, 2023, 03:32:34 PM »

Pennsylvania, New Mexico secretaries of state interviewed as part of special counsel’s 2020 election interference probe

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Federal prosecutors have interviewed the secretaries of state for both Pennsylvania and New Mexico in recent months as part of the ongoing investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election, according to two sources familiar with the probe.

The interviews, which have not been previously reported, indicate that special counsel Jack Smith is focused on actions taken by former President Donald Trump and his allies in seven key battleground states as they sought to upend Joe Biden’s electoral victory.

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt met with prosecutors working with Smith in March, one of the sources said.

Schmidt, a Republican, was asked about issues he encountered while serving as Philadelphia City Commissioner, including how misinformation about widespread voter fraud impacted him and other election officials at the time, the source told CNN. Schmidt was appointed to be secretary of the commonwealth earlier this year.

New Mexico’s top election official, Maggie Toulouse Oliver, also met with federal prosecutors in recent months “to discuss matters related to the 2020 election,” according to the second source.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/14/politics/special-counsel-pennsylvania-new-mexico-2020-election/index.html
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« Reply #2286 on: July 14, 2023, 04:00:41 PM »

J6 defendant goes on tirade during her sentencing and ends up with a longer sentence.  This is a wild one; details here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1679914909235019778.html
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« Reply #2287 on: July 15, 2023, 11:14:39 AM »

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'Idiot' Jan. 6 rioter who stole John Lewis photo from Nancy Pelosi's office gets 4 years.

... Howell (the judge) said it was absurd that Lyons (the criminal "idiot") joined the mob in heckling officers — calling them “f---ing Nazi bastards!” and “SS!” — given that the attack on the U.S. Capitol was "about the most fascistic" thing she'd seen.

"It was the mob that was more like the Nazis and the fascists that day," Howell said, saying it was "bizarrely ironic" for Lyons to refer to officers as Nazis "when the shoe is on the other foot."


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/idiot-jan-6-rioter-stole-john-lewis-photo-nancy-pelosis-office-gets-4-rcna94150
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« Reply #2288 on: July 17, 2023, 05:18:56 PM »



Relatedly, indictments are expected in the Georgia case within the next 30 days.
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« Reply #2289 on: July 18, 2023, 08:39:40 AM »

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« Reply #2290 on: July 18, 2023, 09:41:01 AM »

LOCK HIM UP!


 Trump is an embarrassment. At what point should the media start referring to him as disgraced former President Donald Trump?
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« Reply #2291 on: July 18, 2023, 09:48:47 AM »

The plot thickens.
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« Reply #2292 on: July 18, 2023, 09:50:50 AM »

Assuming Trump does get indicted here, I'd expect this to go to trial before the documents case because there will be no need for time-consuming classified discovery in this one.
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« Reply #2293 on: July 18, 2023, 10:15:30 AM »



Interesting.  Rudy flipped?
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« Reply #2294 on: July 18, 2023, 10:22:21 AM »


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« Reply #2295 on: July 18, 2023, 10:53:31 AM »

Has there been anything official? The claims of fraudster, sexual abuser, and criminal organization head Donald Trump obviously ought not be trusted.
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« Reply #2296 on: July 18, 2023, 10:54:34 AM »

Has there been anything official? The claims of fraudster, sexual abuser, and criminal organization head Donald Trump obviously ought not be trusted.

It's been verified by multiple major news organizations.
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« Reply #2297 on: July 18, 2023, 10:57:22 AM »




Resistance Liberalism remains the most powerful and successful political movement in modern American history.
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« Reply #2298 on: July 18, 2023, 11:16:36 AM »

Has there been anything official? The claims of fraudster, sexual abuser, and criminal organization head Donald Trump obviously ought not be trusted.

It's been verified by multiple major news organizations.

All I'm seeing from news organizations are endless repitions of "Trump says...".  Trump says he's gotten a letter from Jack Smith. Trump also aid he was going to release his taxes. How's that going?

Is there anything on a docket, from the special prosecutor's office, even from Donald's own lawyers, etc?
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« Reply #2299 on: July 18, 2023, 11:26:39 AM »

LOCK HIM UP!


 Trump is an embarrassment. At what point should the media start referring to him as disgraced former President Donald Trump?

Nicole Wallace thankfully does everyday.

Has there been anything official? The claims of fraudster, sexual abuser, and criminal organization head Donald Trump obviously ought not be trusted.

Well, if you cut away all the bluster, the only thing he's gotten wrong so far was the date of the NY indictment.
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