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« Reply #950 on: June 23, 2022, 12:03:25 PM »



The DOJ investigations seem to be picking up steam lately.
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« Reply #951 on: June 23, 2022, 12:27:42 PM »

^ That's the closest link to Trump in their investigations that we know of so far.
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« Reply #952 on: June 23, 2022, 02:15:32 PM »

Kinzinger is the lead questioner in today's hearing.
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« Reply #953 on: June 23, 2022, 02:31:54 PM »

Today's hearing will reveal the members of Congress who asked for pardons. 
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« Reply #954 on: June 23, 2022, 02:44:08 PM »

Today's hearing will reveal the members of Congress who asked for pardons. 


Why would one need a pardon if they’ve done nothing wrong? Hm…
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« Reply #955 on: June 23, 2022, 03:17:19 PM »

The statement by Trump to the AG guys over whom he had authority that they should just say there is fraud (in other words lie and violate their oath of office) after they told him there was no fraud and I will take it from there is the best evidence I have heard so far that Trump committed a crime on this matter.
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« Reply #956 on: June 23, 2022, 03:38:06 PM »

Add Jeff Clark to the list of people who are going to be in deep legal trouble soon.
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« Reply #957 on: June 23, 2022, 03:40:33 PM »

Mark Meadows was forwarding YouTube videos from random conspiracy theorists about MI6 and Italian satellites to the DoJ. The best people, folks!
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« Reply #958 on: June 23, 2022, 03:52:21 PM »

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« Reply #959 on: June 23, 2022, 04:02:07 PM »



Based on what's come out so far in the hearings, I really don't see how Trump can avoid indictment.
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« Reply #960 on: June 23, 2022, 04:15:43 PM »

Apparently Clark was on the street in his pajamas this morning because of the raid.

Also, Gaetz asked for a pardon.
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« Reply #961 on: June 23, 2022, 04:19:26 PM »

Asked for patrons:

Matt Gaetz
Scott Perry
Mo Brooks


I feel like I missed one…
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« Reply #962 on: June 23, 2022, 04:19:33 PM »


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« Reply #963 on: June 23, 2022, 04:19:34 PM »

Fox doesn't have this on by the way. Maybe earlier but they're talking about inflation now.
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« Reply #964 on: June 23, 2022, 04:19:46 PM »



Based on what's come out so far in the hearings, I really don't see how Trump can avoid indictment.

If Trump had been a governor or a mayor or any other level of elected official trying to pull this crap, I have little to no doubt that there would be an indictment. The biggest (only?) thing that is holding charges back is the fact that he was president and has a large enough following that DOJ is worried about whether bringing charges would "hurt the country" by "dividing people" or some such nonsense that really should not be one of their considerations.

Even still, every day that these hearings present new levels of detail on just how expansive this whole scheme was makes me a little less pessimistic about DOJ finding the will to charge him.
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« Reply #965 on: June 23, 2022, 04:27:58 PM »


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« Reply #966 on: June 23, 2022, 04:46:49 PM »

Asked for patrons:

Matt Gaetz
Scott Perry
Mo Brooks


I feel like I missed one…


Goemert, Biggs and I think I heard Gosar. And Greene's name popped up. It is eerie. When you think of the list of the real out there Pub amoral crazies, it turns out that the list that asked for pardons is almost identical.
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« Reply #967 on: June 23, 2022, 04:47:28 PM »



Based on what's come out so far in the hearings, I really don't see how Trump can avoid indictment.

If Trump had been a governor or a mayor or any other level of elected official trying to pull this crap, I have little to no doubt that there would be an indictment. The biggest (only?) thing that is holding charges back is the fact that he was president and has a large enough following that DOJ is worried about whether bringing charges would "hurt the country" by "dividing people" or some such nonsense that really should not be one of their considerations.

Even still, every day that these hearings present new levels of detail on just how expansive this whole scheme was makes me a little less pessimistic about DOJ finding the will to charge him.


I can sympathize with the position the DOJ is in re: bringing charges to Trump.

On the other hand, NOT charging him would have worse implications.
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« Reply #968 on: June 23, 2022, 04:53:59 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2022, 05:36:13 PM by Torie »

I am quite confident that if the evidence makes it clear without much ambiguity that Trump committed a crime here, he will be indicted. As I said before, I am no criminal lawyer, but it seems to me, that it is quite likely that there is enough evidence for that now per today's hearing.

Hopefully, those who are experts opine on this matter who are out there on the internets. So far, there really hasn't been that much from those whom one could consider sober minded experts.

For what it is worth, on CNN just now, Jeff Toobin, a former US attorney and CNN's legal analyst, honed in on the exact testimony of Rosen under oath to which I referred to above, when Trump said just lie, and I will take it from there.
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« Reply #969 on: June 23, 2022, 05:07:16 PM »

I am quite confident that if the evidence makes it clear without much ambiguity that Trump committed a crime here

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No.
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« Reply #970 on: June 23, 2022, 05:20:59 PM »

The raid on Clark's home most likely got direct sign off from Garland.
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« Reply #971 on: June 23, 2022, 05:24:11 PM »

The raid on Clark's home most likely got direct sign off from Garland.

Yes.
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« Reply #972 on: June 24, 2022, 07:46:44 AM »

Ron Johnson says the fake electors he tried to give Pence on January 6 came from Rep. Mike Kelly. Kelly is saying Johnson is lying.

https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-senator-ron-johnson-pence-fake-electors-mike-kelly-2022-6?utm_source=reddit.com
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« Reply #973 on: June 24, 2022, 07:49:26 AM »

Republicans seeking pardons:

Mo Brooks
Matt Gaetz
Andy Biggs
Louis Gohmert
Scott Perry
Marjorie Taylor Greene (potentially)

Any Republicans care to explain why an innocent person would seek a pardon?
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« Reply #974 on: June 24, 2022, 08:41:46 AM »

If Lauren Boebert and Barry Loudermilk were knowingly giving "reconnaissance tours" to future insurrectionists, why didn't they request pardons as well.
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