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« Reply #300 on: September 02, 2021, 10:39:09 PM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.

When Reality Winner went to prison for leaking classified information, I really had to wonder.
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« Reply #301 on: September 02, 2021, 11:07:06 PM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.


It's been a mix of farce and horror the entire time.
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« Reply #302 on: September 03, 2021, 11:45:04 AM »

The "Q Shaman" has pled guilty, faces 41 to 51 month sentence: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/03/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-pleads-guilty-in-capitol-riot-case-.html
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« Reply #303 on: September 04, 2021, 03:47:43 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2021, 03:54:35 PM by Crumpets »

I've only seen this one report, so probably worth waiting for confirmation, but worth a post.

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« Reply #304 on: September 04, 2021, 03:52:55 PM »




Was just about to post this.
Want to add that it seems Kevin McCarthy was someone trying to push this "trump is innocent" horse manure.


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The top members of the select committee investigating the January 6 riot on Capitol Hill refuted recent claims by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy that former President Donald Trump has been cleared by the Justice Department of any role in the insurrection.

"(McCarthy) has suggested, based on an anonymous report, that the Department of Justice has concluded that Donald Trump did not cause, incite, or provoke the violence on January 6th," the statement read. "When this anonymous report was first published, the Select Committee queried the Executive Branch agencies and congressional committees involved in the investigation. We've received answers and briefings from the relevant entities, and it's been made clear to us that reports of such a conclusion are baseless."


https://us.cnn.com/2021/09/04/politics/mccarthy-trump-select-committee-justice-department/index.html
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« Reply #305 on: September 05, 2021, 02:13:05 PM »

They better catch these assholes: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/new-video-shows-capitol-riot-suspects-accused-of-attacking-a-female-media-member
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« Reply #306 on: September 05, 2021, 02:55:20 PM »

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« Reply #307 on: September 05, 2021, 04:57:48 PM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.


It's been a mix of farce and horror the entire time.

Well at least he didn't suggest nuking hurricanes.

Wait a minute . . .
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« Reply #308 on: September 05, 2021, 06:29:19 PM »


What are you talking about?
They just look and act like everyday, normal visitors to The Capitol.
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« Reply #309 on: September 05, 2021, 06:31:58 PM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.


It's been a mix of farce and horror the entire time.

I think the right is correct that we who don't agree with them are going to Hell. What they don't realize is that we already died and Hell is this country that exists with them in it and us forced to coexist with them.
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« Reply #310 on: September 07, 2021, 08:08:43 AM »



 I'm not sure I understand the significance here.. Random people people email government officials is hardly newsworthy
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« Reply #311 on: September 07, 2021, 08:10:17 AM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.


It's been a mix of farce and horror the entire time.

I think the right is correct that we who don't agree with them are going to Hell. What they don't realize is that we already died and Hell is this country that exists with them in it and us forced to coexist with them.
This period the entire 4 years of the trumpet administration felt like one long episode of Arrested Development goes to Washington
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« Reply #312 on: September 08, 2021, 06:29:50 PM »


How are these stories even real?  The creators of the matrix we live in went too far with this one.  The Trump movement is becoming too farcical.


It's been a mix of farce and horror the entire time.

I think the right is correct that we who don't agree with them are going to Hell. What they don't realize is that we already died and Hell is this country that exists with them in it and us forced to coexist with them.
This period the entire 4 years of the trumpet administration felt like one long episode of Arrested Development goes to Washington


I would rather have a GOB/Tony Wonder ticket run for President than anyone the GOP nominates in 2024. The series was pretty prophetic though in its fourth season for predicting the rise of Trump.

Sartre was right, Hell is other people-but those people are specifically Republicans.
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« Reply #313 on: September 10, 2021, 11:22:25 PM »

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« Reply #314 on: September 10, 2021, 11:23:36 PM »

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« Reply #315 on: September 10, 2021, 11:32:36 PM »



Considering that the 20th anniversary of 9/11 is tomorrow, it's distressing to know that January 6th helps to demonstrate how much more divided and polarized the country has become since that great tragedy, in contrast to the national unity that took shape in its immediate aftermath.
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« Reply #316 on: September 11, 2021, 01:04:09 AM »



But I was told that these were salt of the earth working class heroes with nothing to lose???
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« Reply #317 on: September 12, 2021, 02:26:59 PM »

Capitol Police recommends disciplinary action against six officers for Jan. 6 misconduct
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« Reply #318 on: September 14, 2021, 06:12:03 PM »

Mike Pence should stop pretending like he is some sort of hero to the non-MAGA crowd when, actually, it belongs to former Vice-President Dan Quayle (of all people):

New details undermine Pence’s supposed ‘hero’ turn on Jan. 6

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The reality, we’re now finding out, is far from so neat and tidy. It appears less as though Pence said “enough is enough,” and more as though he really entertained doing Trump’s bidding but found that he had no actual authority to make it happen.

(...) But perhaps Headline 1(a) involves new details about Pence’s fateful decision not to heed Trump’s calls to unilaterally help him stay in office. And it involves a cameo appearance from a man you might not have thought about for some time: Dan Quayle.

So intent was Pence on being Trump’s loyal second-in-command — and potential successor — that he asked confidants if there were ways he could accede to Trump’s demands and avoid certifying the results of the election on Jan. 6. In late December, the authors reveal,

Pence called Dan Quayle, a former vice president and fellow Indiana Republican, for advice.
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.

But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.

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« Reply #319 on: September 14, 2021, 06:12:53 PM »

Mike Pence should stop pretending like he is some sort of hero to the non-MAGA crowd when, actually, it belongs to former Vice-President Dan Quayle:

New details undermine Pence’s supposed ‘hero’ turn on Jan. 6

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The reality, we’re now finding out, is far from so neat and tidy. It appears less as though Pence said “enough is enough,” and more as though he really entertained doing Trump’s bidding but found that he had no actual authority to make it happen.

(...) But perhaps Headline 1(a) involves new details about Pence’s fateful decision not to heed Trump’s calls to unilaterally help him stay in office. And it involves a cameo appearance from a man you might not have thought about for some time: Dan Quayle.

So intent was Pence on being Trump’s loyal second-in-command — and potential successor — that he asked confidants if there were ways he could accede to Trump’s demands and avoid certifying the results of the election on Jan. 6. In late December, the authors reveal,

Pence called Dan Quayle, a former vice president and fellow Indiana Republican, for advice.
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.

But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.




Who had "Dan Quayle saves American democracy" on their bingo card?
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« Reply #320 on: September 14, 2021, 06:55:37 PM »

What's with all the people on this site who say to take Woodward with a grain of salt?
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« Reply #321 on: September 23, 2021, 10:01:42 AM »

A federal judge ordered this video released over prosecutors objections as they felt it was a national security risk.

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« Reply #322 on: September 23, 2021, 11:32:24 AM »

A federal judge ordered this video released over prosecutors objections as they felt it was a national security risk.



And?
What's your point?
Also, I have seen that video plenty of times in the past. Nothing new.
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« Reply #323 on: September 23, 2021, 01:53:42 PM »

A federal judge ordered this video released over prosecutors objections as they felt it was a national security risk.



And?
What's your point?
Also, I have seen that video plenty of times in the past. Nothing new.

The point is not everyone there was there for a coup attempt.
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« Reply #324 on: September 23, 2021, 02:09:39 PM »

A federal judge ordered this video released over prosecutors objections as they felt it was a national security risk.



And?
What's your point?
Also, I have seen that video plenty of times in the past. Nothing new.

The point is not everyone there was there for a coup attempt.

I am sure that's true.  However, the corollary to that statement is that some of the people there were indeed there for the purpose of interfering with a lawful election, i.e. a coup attempt.  The latter group, especially those who engaged in violent acts, need to be punished to the full extent of the law.  I don't particularly care about the others.
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