January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 27, 2024, 01:04:26 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread
« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 75 76 77 78 79 [80] 81 82 83 84 85 ... 149
Poll
Question: Will Trump be convicted in his DC January 6 case?
#1
He will be convicted
 
#2
He won't be convicted
 
#3
He should be convicted
 
#4
He should not be convicted
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 66

Calculate results by number of options selected
Author Topic: January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread  (Read 134997 times)
Progressive Pessimist
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,162
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -7.65

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1975 on: December 08, 2022, 07:43:35 PM »

That criminal referral list is redundant with my Christmas list.
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,707


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1976 on: December 12, 2022, 03:55:49 PM »

Special counsel subpoenas Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger in January 6 probe
Logged
H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
Alfred F. Jones
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,118
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1977 on: December 12, 2022, 07:52:41 PM »

Talking Points Memo has unearthed a trove of leaked texts between Mark Meadows and 34 Congressional Republicans (including all the big names on the far right and more), discussing their attempts to overturn the election results from the days after the election up to right before Biden was inaugurated.

Logged
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,572
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1978 on: December 12, 2022, 09:33:39 PM »

We have a sneak-peak on what the final report of the January 6 Commission is going to look like when it comes out on December 21st:


Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,714
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1979 on: December 15, 2022, 09:53:39 AM »

More stuff to come out?

Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,707


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1980 on: December 15, 2022, 11:00:04 AM »

Logged
H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
Alfred F. Jones
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,118
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1981 on: December 16, 2022, 08:57:19 AM »



At least!
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,707


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1982 on: December 16, 2022, 11:36:44 AM »


Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,707


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1983 on: December 16, 2022, 03:51:59 PM »


Logged
emailking
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,373
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1984 on: December 16, 2022, 05:23:27 PM »

CNN is reporting just obstruction of official proceeding and and conspiracy to defraud the US. They say they have a source too so maybe insurrection is up in the air.
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,707


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1985 on: December 16, 2022, 06:13:30 PM »

CNN is reporting just obstruction of official proceeding and and conspiracy to defraud the US. They say they have a source too so maybe insurrection is up in the air.

The committee referrals won't really have any effect on what the DOJ decides to do; they're already clearly investigating all angles and will decide what to charge Trump with based on their own findings.  But I can see insurrection being left out.  It would be much harder to prove (based on what has been publicly revealed), while the other two seem like straightforward cases.
Logged
emailking
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,373
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1986 on: December 16, 2022, 07:20:51 PM »

CNN is reporrting insurrection now.
Logged
Inmate Trump
GWBFan
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,066


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -7.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1987 on: December 17, 2022, 08:12:27 AM »

CNN is reporting just obstruction of official proceeding and and conspiracy to defraud the US. They say they have a source too so maybe insurrection is up in the air.

The committee referrals won't really have any effect on what the DOJ decides to do; they're already clearly investigating all angles and will decide what to charge Trump with based on their own findings.  But I can see insurrection being left out.  It would be much harder to prove (based on what has been publicly revealed), while the other two seem like straightforward cases.



An insurrection conviction disallows him to run for public office...what about obstruction and conspiracy to defraud the US?
Logged
emailking
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,373
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1988 on: December 17, 2022, 11:59:51 PM »

They do not disallow him to run for office.
Logged
Inmate Trump
GWBFan
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,066


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -7.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1989 on: December 19, 2022, 01:18:47 PM »

Proceedings happening.

Cheney sounds good.
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 88,722
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1990 on: December 19, 2022, 01:21:38 PM »

They do not disallow him to run for office.

We want Trump to run he is Losing to Biden in FL he is the weakest Candidate he can beat DeSantis
Logged
Inmate Trump
GWBFan
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,066


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -7.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1991 on: December 19, 2022, 02:07:47 PM »

They do not disallow him to run for office.

We want Trump to run he is Losing to Biden in FL he is the weakest Candidate he can beat DeSantis



We don’t need a man who instigated an insurrection against the country to be free to run again. I don’t care who is winning or losing in the polls in that light; persevering democracy is more important.
Logged
Ferguson97
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,141
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1992 on: December 19, 2022, 02:22:28 PM »

Logged
emailking
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,373
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1993 on: December 19, 2022, 02:40:13 PM »

Anything for the others likes Eastman, etc?
Logged
OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,772


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1994 on: December 19, 2022, 02:42:08 PM »

2 Questions I wonder with this:

1. Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

2. If convicted he probably would be placed on some abandoned military base given that Trump knows too much national security secrets to be placed in any civilian prison as even the guards there dont have the clearance to hear that info
Logged
President Johnson
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,896
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -4.70


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1995 on: December 19, 2022, 02:44:22 PM »



At this point, any Attorney General that doesn't indict Trump without a very good reason - and I can't think of one - deserves to be dismissed from office.

I'm well aware there's a lot pressure from all sides and that this is without precedent, but if Trump is being let off the hook, it will send a signal that you can literally do anything without being hold accountable.
Logged
Ferguson97
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,141
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1996 on: December 19, 2022, 02:47:00 PM »

Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

Isn't that decision up to Trump and his defense team, as he's entitled to a jury trial if he wants? If I'm Trump, I'm taking my chances with the jury since like you said, you'll never find an impartial jury. With 12 people, there's a very good chance you'll find at least one supporter.
Logged
OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,772


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1997 on: December 19, 2022, 02:50:14 PM »

Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

Isn't that decision up to Trump and his defense team, as he's entitled to a jury trial if he wants? If I'm Trump, I'm taking my chances with the jury since like you said, you'll never find an impartial jury. With 12 people, there's a very good chance you'll find at least one supporter.

It also is DC though and Trump lost DC by an 18:1 margin so that might not be the case.
Logged
Ferguson97
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,141
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1998 on: December 19, 2022, 02:51:23 PM »

Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

Isn't that decision up to Trump and his defense team, as he's entitled to a jury trial if he wants? If I'm Trump, I'm taking my chances with the jury since like you said, you'll never find an impartial jury. With 12 people, there's a very good chance you'll find at least one supporter.

It also is DC though and Trump lost DC by an 18:1 margin so that might not be the case.

1/12 is 8%, so it's pretty close to what he won in 2020. And he only needs 1 person.
Logged
OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,772


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1999 on: December 19, 2022, 02:57:05 PM »

Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

Isn't that decision up to Trump and his defense team, as he's entitled to a jury trial if he wants? If I'm Trump, I'm taking my chances with the jury since like you said, you'll never find an impartial jury. With 12 people, there's a very good chance you'll find at least one supporter.

It also is DC though and Trump lost DC by an 18:1 margin so that might not be the case.

1/12 is 8%, so it's pretty close to what he won in 2020. And he only needs 1 person.

Btw if you take the Biden's number in DC I calculated there is about a 37.5% chance every member on the jury would be a Biden supporter , on the other hand if you take the not Trump number there is about a 51.37% chance every member on the jury did not support Trump.

Logged
Pages: 1 ... 75 76 77 78 79 [80] 81 82 83 84 85 ... 149  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.064 seconds with 10 queries.