Australia General Discussion 4.0: It ain’t easy under Albanese

[AustralianSwingVoter]

NT Labor has narrowly held Fannie Bay in a by-election triggered by ex-Chief Minister Gunner's resignation with a 7% swing against it.

[Meclazine for Israel]

ABC.net.au for the last 7 days.

Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison

Then Albanese relases legal advice saying the political appointments during the COVID pandemic were legal.

ABC.net.au today:

Complete and utter silence.

The bias at the ABC is way too strong towards Labor.

[CumbrianLefty]

Legal is not the same as ethical, of course.

And arguably ABC are only making up for much of the rest of the Oz media there

[Pulaski]

In one of the most bizarre moments in recent political history, Albanese had a press conference today on progress on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament and was joined by…Shaquille O’Neal.

Albo looked like a midget standing next to him.

[GoTfan]

ABC.net.au for the last 7 days.

Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison

Then Albanese relases legal advice saying the political appointments during the COVID pandemic were legal.

ABC.net.au today:

Complete and utter silence.

The bias at the ABC is way too strong towards Labor.

Alright, I'm fed up with your nonsense.

The ABC is literally headed by a Liberal Party donor and was appointed by the Liberal Party. David Speers, the anchor of Insiders, is ex-Sky News.

Just because some right-wing whackos think the ABC is biased against them, it is not. In fact, it was only a few years ago they were praising the ABC for its fearless reporting of the turmoil in Labor of the Rudd-Gillard saga.

Funny how quickly they turned their guns on the ABC the second negative stories started coming out about the Coalition.

All I'll say is that your bias accusations are not sticking; the ABC is still the most trusted news source in Australia.

[CumbrianLefty]

Albanese has apparently been filmed chugging down a few beers - so far at least, this doesn't seem to have caused the fuss that Sanna Marin enjoying herself has.

[Pulaski]

Albanese has apparently been filmed chugging down a few beers - so far at least, this doesn't seem to have caused the fuss that Sanna Marin enjoying herself has.

Our politicians have history on this and I think we’re likely to be a bit less uptight than the Finns. Leaving aside that Marin is an attractive young woman which doesn’t do her any favours for this kind of stuff either.

He did it at the Gang of Youths gig I was at the other night. Everyone went wild but overlooked that it was a third of a plastic cup at best. Weak IMO.

[GoTfan]

Albanese has apparently been filmed chugging down a few beers - so far at least, this doesn't seem to have caused the fuss that Sanna Marin enjoying herself has.

Our politicians have history on this and I think we’re likely to be a bit less uptight than the Finns. Leaving aside that Marin is an attractive young woman which doesn’t do her any favours for this kind of stuff either.

He did it at the Gang of Youths gig I was at the other night. Everyone went wild but overlooked that it was a third of a plastic cup at best. Weak IMO.

It's also a tradition here. Remember, Bob Hawke once sculled a yard of ale at Oxford in 11 seconds.

[Continential]

Atlas Aussies, what do you think of this channel?

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Albanese has apparently been filmed chugging down a few beers - so far at least, this doesn't seem to have caused the fuss that Sanna Marin enjoying herself has.

Our politicians have history on this and I think we’re likely to be a bit less uptight than the Finns. Leaving aside that Marin is an attractive young woman which doesn’t do her any favours for this kind of stuff either.

He did it at the Gang of Youths gig I was at the other night. Everyone went wild but overlooked that it was a third of a plastic cup at best. Weak IMO.

It's also a tradition here. Remember, Bob Hawke once sculled a yard of ale at Oxford in 11 seconds.

[Pulaski]

Albanese has apparently been filmed chugging down a few beers - so far at least, this doesn't seem to have caused the fuss that Sanna Marin enjoying herself has.

Our politicians have history on this and I think we’re likely to be a bit less uptight than the Finns. Leaving aside that Marin is an attractive young woman which doesn’t do her any favours for this kind of stuff either.

He did it at the Gang of Youths gig I was at the other night. Everyone went wild but overlooked that it was a third of a plastic cup at best. Weak IMO.

It's also a tradition here. Remember, Bob Hawke once sculled a yard of ale at Oxford in 11 seconds.

Yes, that's why I said our politicians have history on this.

[Mike88]

Resolve Strategic poll:

Vote share %: (compared with the May 2022 election)

42% Labor (+9)
28% Coalition (-8)
12% Green (nc)
  5% ONP (nc)
  2% UAP (-2)
11% Others/Independent (+1)

2pp vote %:

61.3% Labor (+9.2)
38.7% Coalition (-9.2)

Poll conducted between 17 and 21 August. Polled 2,011 voters.

This is the best polling for a government party since March 2008.

[GoTfan]

Resolve Strategic poll:

Vote share %: (compared with the May 2022 election)

42% Labor (+9)
28% Coalition (-8)
12% Green (nc)
  5% ONP (nc)
  2% UAP (-2)
11% Others/Independent (+1)

2pp vote %:

61.3% Labor (+9.2)
38.7% Coalition (-9.2)

Poll conducted between 17 and 21 August. Polled 2,011 voters.

This is the best polling for a government party since March 2008.

The two Vanity Project Parties are polling less than the Greens COMBINED.

That's just funny.

[Continential]

Resolve Strategic poll:

Vote share %: (compared with the May 2022 election)

42% Labor (+9)
28% Coalition (-8)
12% Green (nc)
   5% ONP (nc)
  2% UAP (-2)
11% Others/Independent (+1)

2pp vote %:

61.3% Labor (+9.2)
38.7% Coalition (-9.2)

Poll conducted between 17 and 21 August. Polled 2,011 voters.

This is the best polling for a government party since March 2008.

If the results were based on uniform swing based on this poll, the amount of Lib/Nat seats would be cut in half if I’m not wrong.

[MaxQue]

Resolve Strategic poll:

Vote share %: (compared with the May 2022 election)

42% Labor (+9)
28% Coalition (-8)
12% Green (nc)
   5% ONP (nc)
  2% UAP (-2)
11% Others/Independent (+1)

2pp vote %:

61.3% Labor (+9.2)
38.7% Coalition (-9.2)

Poll conducted between 17 and 21 August. Polled 2,011 voters.

This is the best polling for a government party since March 2008.

If the results were based on uniform swing based on this poll, the amount of Lib/Nat seats would be cut in half if I’m not wrong.

Worse than that. They would lose 35 seats, keeping only 23 (and Nationals would have more seats than Liberals, 12 to 11).

[If my soul was made of stone]

Resolve Strategic poll:

Vote share %: (compared with the May 2022 election)

42% Labor (+9)
28% Coalition (-8)
12% Green (nc)
   5% ONP (nc)
  2% UAP (-2)
11% Others/Independent (+1)

2pp vote %:

61.3% Labor (+9.2)
38.7% Coalition (-9.2)

Poll conducted between 17 and 21 August. Polled 2,011 voters.

This is the best polling for a government party since March 2008.

If the results were based on uniform swing based on this poll, the amount of Lib/Nat seats would be cut in half if I’m not wrong.

Worse than that. They would lose 35 seats, keeping only 23 (and Nationals would have more seats than Liberals, 12 to 11).

we are all mark mcgowan on this blessed day

[Pulaski]

Obligatory post saying polling at this point in time is less than useless, new governments pretty much always get a bounce, Rudd recorded the best approval ratings in history before dragging Labor to an election-losing position in the polls etc. etc.

Governments in Aus nearly always get a second term, even Labor ones, and Dutton’s personal approvals will likely always be negative, so as long as Albo doesn’t screw up too badly I’m expecting a win in 2025, but let’s hang on.

[CumbrianLefty]

Still, its a decent honeymoon and he seems to be putting it to good use.

[CumbrianLefty]

The general attitude, in more confident and settled times, to students inevitably making a spectacle of themselves has been "they will grow out of it".

Making every random crank into a major culture war artefact is a periodic right wing thing (there were also significant outbreaks of it in the 1960s and 80s) Then and now, it strongly suggests deflection.

[MaxQue]

The trots at USyd seem to think the LNP should be treated like a fringe party. The  psych projection is hillarious.

No more hilarious than a certain poster calling everything he doesn't like a trot.

[GoTfan]

I'm actually being accurate. Like Albo was in describing the candidate the Greens ran against him in 2016 as one. (Albo was right on the money: said trot was too left-wing even for Balmain!).

The Greens are dominated by ex-comms and trots in the Eastern States.

No, they are not. You just describe people you don't like as trots.

[Continential]

I'm actually being accurate. Like Albo was in describing the candidate the Greens ran against him in 2016 as one. (Albo was right on the money: said trot was too left-wing even for Balmain!).

The Greens are dominated by ex-comms and trots in the Eastern States.

Are you an ex-comm or Trot?

[GoTfan]

I'm actually being accurate. Like Albo was in describing the candidate the Greens ran against him in 2016 as one. (Albo was right on the money: said trot was too left-wing even for Balmain!).

The Greens are dominated by ex-comms and trots in the Eastern States.

No, they are not. You just describe people you don't like as trots.

Lee Rhiannon - ex-comm

Adam Bandt = ex-Marxist

Those are just two.

The Greens are socialist, not social democratic.

The ALP is only "right-wing" relative to strong socialism.

Oh, by the way:

Okay, well now we get to the part where I have to ask: do the Greens advocate for the abolition of private property and for workers to seize the means of ownership? And I don't want a fantasy answer. I want hard evidence that they do. The official party policy that advocates for both of those measures.

[Continential]

Adam Bandt = ex-Marxist

And Keir Starmer was a Trot, your point being?

[GoTfan]

I'm actually being accurate. Like Albo was in describing the candidate the Greens ran against him in 2016 as one. (Albo was right on the money: said trot was too left-wing even for Balmain!).

The Greens are dominated by ex-comms and trots in the Eastern States.

No, they are not. You just describe people you don't like as trots.

Lee Rhiannon - ex-comm

Adam Bandt = ex-Marxist

Those are just two.

The Greens are socialist, not social democratic.

The ALP is only "right-wing" relative to strong socialism.

Oh, by the way:

Okay, well now we get to the part where I have to ask: do the Greens advocate for the abolition of private property and for workers to seize the means of ownership? And I don't want a fantasy answer. I want hard evidence that they do. The official party policy that advocates for both of those measures.

Nick McKim and Adam Bandt have both advocted for a return to pre-1980s economic policies such as public ownership of things privatised under the Hawke and Keating era, and they want to make legal again things like the closed shop and secondary boycotts that the Hawke reforms abolished in the eighties. Even if not Soviet-style socialists, these policies show them to be political dinosaurs compared to a modern 2022 party like the ALP.

Don't change the subject. Where in the Greens platform is support for the aboltion of private property and for workers to seize the means of production? They are the central tenets of Marxism.