Australia General Discussion 4.0: It ain’t easy under Albanese

[AustralianSwingVoter]

long-dead old thread: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=316425.0

[AustralianSwingVoter]

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-labor-boss-to-ask-jodi-mckay-to-stand-down-as-party-leader-20210524-p57uq5.html

NSW Labor Leader Jodi McKay is being encouraged to stand down following the party’s disastrous result in the weekend’s byelection but no clear candidate has been identified to replace her.

Senior NSW Labor figures say a deal has been struck that would see the party’s general secretary Bob Nanva ask Ms McKay to step aside.

Party and union figures close to the negotiations say there is a desire for Ms McKay to step aside to avoid a protracted internal voting process to secure a new Labor leader.

After a poor result in the Upper Hunter by-election (in spite of the former Coalition MP resigning under a cloud of very serious rape allegations) the knives are our for NSW Labor leader Jodi McKay. While the result was poor Labor horrifically mismanaged expectations to the point where anything but a win would lead to leadership change. If successful NSW Labor will have gone 5 consecutive Parliaments with a change of leadership midterm.

Both contenders to replace her (Chris Minns and Ryan Park) are members of the NSW Right so there's no chance of actual transformative change within the party, just more of the same from the faceless men of sussex street.

[CumbrianLefty]

NSW Labor demonstrating Einstein's thesis about insanity there.

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The LNP has held Federal power for nineteen of the past twenty five years. The left’s offering of a mix of old time socialism and new time identity politics is voter repellent.

[GoTfan]

ALP member.

I failto see why the media is pushing this narrative about how Upper Hunter is a "TOTAL DISASTER FOR LABOR!!!!!" when it's a seat the Nats have held since 1910.

They weren't running the same headlines when the Liberals were defeated comprehensively in Queensland and then throroughly annihilated in WA to the pint where they no longer have official party status.

THis is what Kevin Rudd means when he talks about media bias.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

I failto see why the media is pushing this narrative about how Upper Hunter is a "TOTAL DISASTER FOR LABOR!!!!!" when it's a seat the Nats have held since 1910.

I suspect the faceless men inside the ALP have been pushing this ridiculous narrative to the media to help their crusade against Jodi. This is the NSW Right after all.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Jodi McKay looks to have barely hung on as NSW Labor leader, with her opponents falling just short. Their main impediment is they keep pushing Chris Minns who is even more unpopular with members than Jodi.
A shocking display of incompetence from the faceless men, who blew up this by election and still messed up toppling the leader.

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Jodi McKay was hosting the NBN late edition news when the first word of the September 11 attacks reached Australia. She should be remembered for that and not as yet another failed Labor leader.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

The Shadow Treasurer has resigned, so it’s very clear that Jodi hang on by promising someone the Treasury for their support (Michael Daley perhaps). And someone from the Deputy Leader’s office leaked to the press a smear on her rivals titled “ Why Chris Minns and Jamie Clements Can Never Run The NSW Labor Party”. Not exactly subtle.

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NSW politics relative to Australian federal politics is like the end season of a long-running sitcom - the same familiar characters, but every single trait is exaggerated into caricature.

The LNP has held Federal power for nineteen of the past twenty five years. The left’s offering of a mix of old time socialism and new time identity politics is voter repellent.

I think this is a fairly generic criticism that a right winger might diagnose with any left wing party. (E.g. if I said "Queensland LNP have only won one election in the since the fall of Joh in the 80's, clear proof that conservative dogma fails) I think the specific oddities of the Australian Labor Party is a far more interactive line of inquiry tbh.

[CumbrianLefty]

The LNP has held Federal power for nineteen of the past twenty five years. The left’s offering of a mix of old time socialism and new time identity politics is voter repellent.

The ALP offers "old time socialism"?? Quite genuine LOL. And this applies still more to the NSW party, which is even by Aussie standards fantastically right wing.

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I meant the comms and Trots in the greens

[GoTfan]

The LNP has held Federal power for nineteen of the past twenty five years. The left’s offering of a mix of old time socialism and new time identity politics is voter repellent.

The ALP offers "old time socialism"?? Quite genuine LOL. And this applies still more to the NSW party, which is even by Aussie standards fantastically right wing.

Yeah. Speaking as an ALP member, not even the Left of the party is willing to embrace socialism anymore. I mean, the ALP quit Socialist International a couple of years ago.

[CumbrianLefty]

The LNP has held Federal power for nineteen of the past twenty five years. The left’s offering of a mix of old time socialism and new time identity politics is voter repellent.

The ALP offers "old time socialism"?? Quite genuine LOL. And this applies still more to the NSW party, which is even by Aussie standards fantastically right wing.

Yeah. Speaking as an ALP member, not even the Left of the party is willing to embrace socialism anymore. I mean, the ALP quit Socialist International a couple of years ago.

I did not actually know this.

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In all fairness, if you want a laugh, look who is currently President of Socialist International.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Jodi McKay to give a press conference in 30 minutes, expected to announce her resignation as leader. Chris Minns expected to replace her unopposed.

Edit: And she’s gone, with an emotional but disingenuous speech insisting she still had the support of the party room.

[GoTfan]

I've filed a complaint to Sky News under Clause 3.1 of the ASTRA Code of Practice for Subscription Broadcast Television - (d) the need to take into account community concerns about depictions that condone or incite violence regarding comments Peta Credlin made yesterday. She said "There's more than enough baseball bats for both Albo and Andrews to cop a whack."

It might not seem like a lot, but it hardly helps for her to be making these sorts of comments when we have people like Avi Yemeni running around inciting people to break the law.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Callbacks to Wayne Goss's baseball quote still going strong among the punditry. Very unsurprising that braindead thugs like Peta Credlin inevitably turn it into active threats of violence, either through idiocy or malice.

[CumbrianLefty]

In all fairness, if you want a laugh, look who is currently President of Socialist International.

Oh my, truly in YCNMIU territory there

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While this is an opinion piece, it includes several quotes from Labor sources, and also serves as an interesting insight into Labor’s election strategy, so far: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/28/in-with-a-chance-after-two-years-of-albanese-labor-feels-morrison-can-be-beaten

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Daley has pulled out, making Chris Minns the next NSW Labor leader. His main problem is he represents the most marginal Labor seat, and the redistribution is likely to flip it to notionally Liberal. If he doesn't take the PR hit and move seats that will make campaigning very difficult for him, as it did for Howard in '07 and Newman in '15.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Meanwhile in Victorian state politics the Liberals latest ploy to win votes is spreading baseless conspiracy theories about Dan Andrews' back injury and how it's actually linked to multimillionaire trucking tycoon Lindsay Fox. The Shadow Treasurer, awfully confident for someone sitting on a 0.02% majority, has decided to hound the Premier and demand answers to her conspiracy theories while wearing a poncho that made her look like an amputee.

Who was in the house at the time of the incident?
What is the address of the house where it occurred?
Who owns the property?
What time was an ambulance called?
Who called the ambulance?
What time did the ambulance arrive?
Which ambulance station was the ambulance dispatched from?
Who made the decision to take the Premier to Peninsula Private?
Were the police contacted?
Did the police attend?
Has Daniel Andrews been interviewed either formally or informally by the police in relation to anything that occurred over that long weekend?

[GoTfan]

And a mighty good job they're doing of it. The last official poll had Victorian Labor sitting pretty on 58% 2PP.

But what bench do the Victorian Liberals have?

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If Labor loses another Federal election the federal level of my party will be back to the dark days of the fifties and sixties before Whitlam became its leader and modernised it and made it electable again.

[CumbrianLefty]

Whitlam had to lose an election first, as well.